Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Matt Lee
The FSF already releases lots of things under free licenses -- virtually all of the graphics, banners, stickers, etc are under free licenses. The Email Self Defense Guide is under a free license https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ LibrePlanet wiki is under the GNU FDL and the conference websites

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/12/2016 06:47 PM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > [...] > > The FSF is a guiding light for software freedom. That light is made less > bright > by its inconsistent commitment to freedom for non-software works, but it's > frequent and prominent use of non-free licenses for non-software. That light >

[libreplanet-discuss] FSF endorsement criteria for educational courses (esp conversion masters)

2016-02-12 Thread Sam Pablo Kuper
Dear list, A number of universities offer "conversion masters" courses in computer science, software engineering, electronic engineering, and related disciplines (broadly, information technology or "IT"). Conversion courses like this are postgraduate courses intended for graduates from a differen

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Blaise Alleyne
On 12/02/16 12:24 PM, Tobias Platen wrote: > > > On 02/12/2016 06:04 PM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >> On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: >>> On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to promote a particular point of

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Blaise Alleyne
On 11/02/16 07:08 AM, Fabio Pesari wrote: > I know this is going to be controversial and I understand that the FSF > is about software and not culture but in truth, I disagree with the > FSF's (and the GNU project's) usage of nonfree cultural licenses (like > the CC-BY-ND). > > I disagree with the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Sam Pablo Kuper
On 12/02/16 17:04, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: >> Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works should >> be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is therefore itself a >> work that is an injustice to those who recieve it and that it sho

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Tobias Platen
On 02/12/2016 06:29 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 02/12/2016 09:24 AM, Tobias Platen wrote: Copyleft requires that the exact license text is passed to all readers and users. One can still modify the GPL, but that modified licence needs a different name, as it is not the original work. Even if the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 02/12/2016 09:24 AM, Tobias Platen wrote: > > Copyleft requires that the exact license text is passed to all readers > and users. One can still modify the GPL, but that modified licence needs > a different name, as it is not the original work. Even if the GPL were > not copyrighted, as laws an

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 02/12/2016 07:23 AM, Yoni Rabkin wrote: > As Aaron points out, I think that the respective party's positions on > the matter are already well established and don't need to be repeated. > Indeed, and like before 100% of the comments rejecting the importance of free culture are ignoring all the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Tobias Platen
On 02/12/2016 06:04 PM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to promote a particular point of view (e.g. Free Software) Somebody else may take 90% of the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Blaise Alleyne
On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: > On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to >> promote a particular point of view (e.g. Free Software) >> >> Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Blaise Alleyne
On 11/02/16 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 11/02/16 13:08, Fabio Pesari wrote: >> I know this is going to be controversial and I understand that the FSF >> is about software and not culture but in truth, I disagree with the >> FSF's (and the GNU project's) usage of nonfree cultural licen

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF endorsement criteria for institutions?

2016-02-12 Thread Sam Pablo Kuper
On 12/02/16 02:05, Sam Pablo Kuper wrote: > Likewise an educational institution would only be endorsed if it met the > criteria for employers, and also did not require any current, > prospective or past students to use non-free software. That was poorly-phrased, sorry. Here is a better version: L

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/02/16 15:11, Fabio Pesari wrote: > On 02/11/2016 01:29 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and >> start using them to promote a similar point of view (e.g. Open Source) > > If the free software philosophy is indeed the strongest

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Yoni Rabkin
Disclaimer: I'm a volunteer for the GPL Compliance Lab, but I am not speaking as an FSF volunteer or for the FSF in any way, shape or form. I'm just speaking as me: Yoni. As Aaron points out, I think that the respective party's positions on the matter are already well established and don't need t

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/12/2016 02:29 PM, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > There are cases of misuse of the material published by the Free > Software Foundation, at least here in Brazil. Although, as far as I > know, there's no evidence that they were brought to the consent of the > FSF, or (supposing the existence o

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
There are cases of misuse of the material published by the Free Software Foundation, at least here in Brazil. Although, as far as I know, there's no evidence that they were brought to the consent of the FSF, or (supposing the existence of the worst scenario) brought to court, since those who misuse

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Reverse Engineering

2016-02-12 Thread Felipe T. R. Tovar
How about OpenSparc? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/systems/opensparc/index.html On Sunday, February 7, 2016 6:04 AM, Giuseppe Molica wrote: >Fabio Pesari writes: > That's why I say we should build our computers from hardware components > with libre designs. > > I think reverse en

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-12 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
The free software movement is concerned about the essential freedoms towards functional data[1] and the freedom to, at least, redistribute verbatim copies of a non-functional data non-commercially[2] (except for the case of evaluating system distributions, which must also provide only non-functiona

[libreplanet-discuss] funding opportunities for speaker travel

2016-02-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've been having some discussion with organizers of an event in Asia recently and I understand that their ticket revenue doesn't raise enough money to cover speaker travel costs this year. I've also heard from organizers of a couple of other events over the next year who are contemplating the sam

[libreplanet-discuss] Effort to help free programs reach important milestones quickly

2016-02-12 Thread Fabio Pesari
Wouldn't it be great if the FSF organized something similar to Google Summer of Code for projects which need more attention? It could be completely crowdfunded (the FSF could just manage the money), and give the free software community a common focus on issues that affect everyone (those can be ag

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Mapping the patterns of the GNU GPL Onto the Material World

2016-02-12 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/11/2016 07:04 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is an idea I have been working on to help us host Free Software, > build Free Hardware, and also to generally gain more User Freedom in > the physical world. > [...] Hello Patrick, I think your ideas are quite forward-thinking bu