Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Matt Ivie
On Wed, 2020-09-23 at 12:13 +0200, Marinus Savoritias wrote: > A permissive license absolutely hurts the user. Any company or bad > actor > can just take the project, re license it and close source it. > An educated developer will see that their freedoms would be robbed were they to support that

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Eric Schultz
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:04 AM Marinus Savoritias <[1]marinus.savorit...@disroot.org> wrote: > > 2. The main argument for GPL is that it protects the freedom of the user > by restricting the freedom of the developer a little bit. Same with a > company that has to keep trade

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Marinus Savoritias
On 9/23/20 12:01 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Ali Reza Hayati [2020-09-23 00:41]: Marinus didn't mean that the software harms the user. Marinus meant how a software licensed under a weak libre license can be used against the community/people. Thank you. If a permissive license is used to

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Marinus Savoritias
If you think there is more and more GPL license I hope you never got to Github or Gitlab. There is a huge surprise coming your way. Marinus Savoritias On 9/23/20 12:14 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Marinus Savoritias [2020-09-23 00:42]: The problem is though that if somebody wants to write a

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Marinus Savoritias
Exactly. I agree completely with what you said. We need to convince programmers that software can have consequences. I think its a broader thing of people not caring about ethics. Marinus Savoritias On 9/23/20 12:28 AM, Jim Garrett wrote: (Not responding to Marinus specifically, just getting

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Marinus Savoritias
A permissive license absolutely hurts the user. Any company or bad actor can just take the project, re license it and close source it. That takes away user freedom. If anybody and any company can just close source the work that is not freedom. If it is the same freedom let's delete GPL go to

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-23 Thread Marinus Savoritias
On 9/23/20 4:14 AM, Eric Schultz wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:04 AM Marinus Savoritias mailto:marinus.savorit...@disroot.org>> wrote: > > 2. The main argument for GPL is that it protects the freedom of the user > by restricting the freedom of the developer a little bit. Same with