Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Then let me be clear. By "free hardware" I mean that the following is >

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I support the right to repair movement. However, when it deals with computers and

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But they are not very influencial and seems to all follow a road to > failure

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > "Essentially, "free hardware" means that you can make > the hardware

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] If you want to speak of "free hardware", what, concretely, should it mean? Can you

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > So if FSF took a stronger stand on Free Hardware Designs The FSF does not take

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> How far should guidelines for hardware go? Can it go as far as saying it must be something you can build in a garage or can it be, designs available but must send to away for fabrication? There are varying degrees of freedom in one or the other. -- Ivie I think that both being able to build

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> Modifying *integrated circuits* is virtually impossible -- Leah I disagree on that. From my experience it's very possible, but it's usually not economical as people lack the infrastructure and knowledge to develop those at home, where crowd-sourcing and outsourcing the fabrication to a 3rd

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Thomas Lord
A few thoughts on Leah's definition of "free hardware": + The gist is clear "Essentially, "free hardware" means that you can make the hardware yourself." What I think is envisioned here is a world in which hardware manufacture is for many practical purposes driven by software:

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:31:11 -0800 Matt Ivie wrote: > Here is an interesting case where someone is fabricating processors > themselves: > > https://www.wired.com/story/22-year-old-builds-chips-parents-garage/ This changes everything. Thank you for linking this! Richard, you should definitely

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Matt Ivie
On January 25, 2022 5:18:17 AM PST, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss wrote: > >On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:03:20 + >Leah Rowe wrote: > >> It's only in the last 40 years that things have gone down-hill. In the >> 70s, you could open up your electronics and there would be schematics >> showing

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:14:16 + Jacob Hrbek wrote: > > Modifying *integrated circuits* is virtually impossible -- Leah > (I clarified in a follow-up email that modifying the final assembly is hard, but that the verilog and such are more practical to modify. I didn't address fabrication

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:14:16 + Jacob Hrbek wrote: > > Modifying *integrated circuits* is virtually impossible -- Leah > > I disagree on that. From my experience it's very possible, but it's > usually not economical as people lack the infrastructure and knowledge > to develop those at home,

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:03:20 + Leah Rowe wrote: > It's only in the last 40 years that things have gone down-hill. In the > 70s, you could open up your electronics and there would be schematics > showing you how everything was put together. It's possible that > you could send in a device for

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
Hi Richard, On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:16:52 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:48:36 + Leah Rowe wrote: > Modifying *integrated > circuits* is virtually impossible I want to clarify that I mean once they are built. With verilog source, you can modify microprocessors quite easily, to then build your own. See: RISCV project. Completely free ISA

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-25 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:16:36 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Your