Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
> Then sit Leah. There maybe tasks that you can do while sitting at your > laptop supporting those of us who choose to rise! I am unfamiliar with this concept "let's rise" or "rise up!", in the context which you are referring to. Could you explain to me? -- Leah Rowe Company Director &

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-21 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 PM Leah Rowe <[1]i...@minifree.org> wrote: Why do I have to rise? I'm too lazy to get up. I'd rather just sit here and paint, or code. Then sit Leah. There maybe tasks that you can do while sitting at your laptop supporting those of us who choose

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
Why do I have to rise? I'm too lazy to get up. I'd rather just sit here and paint, or code. On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:18:22 -0500 "Adrienne G. Thompson" wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:09 PM al3xu5 / dotcommon > wrote: > > > ... Please, those who think like me, make your voice heard! > > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-20 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno giovedì 19/09/2019 12:29:53 -0700 Aaron Wolf ha scritto: > It seems the public haranguing is so good at drawing emotion and > attention that anything that doesn't fit the narrative gets ignored too > often. > > And defending the accused in this bold public campaign way *does* fit >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
You can "Rise Up" in a civil manner. That is what you will be doing by engaging the FSF in diplomatic discussion. It is a protest - just a more civil one than the twitter campaign that lies in waiting should you fail to do anything at all. We need formal assurance from the FSF that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
The call to go to Twitter with a hashtag is exactly the opposite of what I am suggesting. This seems like having a protest march before even an initial attempt to negotiate and work on diplomacy in the first place. RMS' should be reinstated immediately as FSF

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott
Thank you Aaron for trying to push the conversation in a more civil and productive direction. I regret not emphasizing this more strongly in an earlier message. On 2019-09-19 at 12:29, Aaron Wolf wrote: > However, the solution is not to just take the opposing partisan side in > the argument.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Those who here have clear how the statements of RMS have been misunderstood, > distorted and in some cases even manipulated - more or less consciously, > often with superficiality and hypocrisy - should manifest it, asking FSF to > reject the resignation of RMS. > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Aaron Wolf
The call to go to Twitter with a hashtag is exactly the opposite of what I am suggesting. This seems like having a protest march before even an initial attempt to negotiate and work on diplomacy in the first place. We may not be involved directly with the FSF Board but we should start by getting

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:30 PM Aaron Wolf <[1]wolft...@riseup.net> wrote: I agree that the call-out and cancel culture and mob justice is dangerous and often misguided. ... One good answer is to actually have a more reasoned, open, (perhaps) facilitated,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Aaron Wolf
It seems the public haranguing is so good at drawing emotion and attention that anything that doesn't fit the narrative gets ignored too often. And defending the accused in this bold public campaign way *does* fit the narrative. But I'm trying to keep pushing a different direction. I agree with

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:09 PM al3xu5 / dotcommon <[1]dotcom...@autistici.org> wrote: ... Please, those who think like me, make your voice heard! Rise Up!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now -

[libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!

2019-09-19 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Those who here have clear how the statements of RMS have been misunderstood, distorted and in some cases even manipulated - more or less consciously, often with superficiality and hypocrisy - should manifest it, asking FSF to reject the resignation of RMS. In the progressive encirclement to the