Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-21 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hello all, I am so excited to read all of your replies to my original post, really lots of things to think about. >From my experience, of all the practical/technical obstacles to the spread of Free Software, one of the biggest challenges is simply for someone (who speaks English) to overcome the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-20 Thread brendanpmurray
Thanks, Richmond - you explained exactly what I was trying to say. The reality is that in CoderDojo, there are a set of restrictions that don't permit the ideal of everything being FOSS. I completely understand the differences between Free and Opensource - what I was trying to explain are the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-19 Thread Andrés Muñiz Piniella
Hi Pen-Yuan Hsing, TL;DR As mention here I also did some coder dojo. I discussed my practical thoughts here [1] special mention is how little you really need to know about coding to help out. Now, a coding club sounds like something more frequent. (Bi weekly?) fsfe has some info look into

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2015-09-18 at 21:11 -0500, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote: > brendanpmur...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks Mark, yes - we try to get them to look at alternatives to > > Windoze, > > but there's no pressure. While J.B.'s comments are great from a > > purist > > point of view, the OSS goal is

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread Thomas HARDING
Le 18/09/2015 00:50, Pen-Yuan Hsing a écrit : Thank you Brendan and Thomas for your replies. I see that (1) to start it is nice to think about something you could benefit from coding, and (2) CoderDojo is a nice organisation to join. Both sound good! I'll past this information along, and I

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread brendanpmurray
Teaching coding doesn't involve explaining licences: that is something that should be instilled by practice and leading the kids to use solutions that have the appropriate licence. >From my experience, those approaching coding for the first time learn most from solutions that provide immediate

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread Thomas HARDING
Le 18/09/2015 10:36, brendanpmur...@gmail.com a écrit : Teaching coding doesn't involve explaining licences: that is something that should be instilled by practice and leading the kids to use solutions that have the appropriate licence. From my experience, those approaching coding for the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread hellekin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/18/2015 04:50 PM, Thomas HARDING wrote: > > I just made a post complex enough to say: > > let them experience code sharing with each other without FS licenses, > with obligation to make it as is it done in the prorietary sphere. > *Legally*.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread brendanpmurray
Thanks Mark, yes - we try to get them to look at alternatives to Windoze, but there's no pressure. While J.B.'s comments are great from a purist point of view, the OSS goal is orthogonal to the goal of teaching coding. It is not prescriptive, so there is no way on earth we would criticize any kid

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread David Loyall
Regarding teaching plans (curriculum), here is a link: http://csunplugged.org/ I have reviewed two of their lessons and found them to be high quality. Cheers, --Dave On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, thanks everyone for

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-18 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
brendanpmur...@gmail.com wrote: Teaching coding doesn't involve explaining licences: that is something that should be instilled by practice and leading the kids to use solutions that have the appropriate licence. I disagree; licensing power and responsible use of that power is very much

[libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-17 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hello, First of all, thanks everyone for your help several weeks ago on the Freeing of a scientific software I mentioned here. I have a couple follow up questions which I plan to post in another message, but for now there is another issue. I learned that a teacher in a secondary school in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-17 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thank you Brendan and Thomas for your replies. I see that (1) to start it is nice to think about something you could benefit from coding, and (2) CoderDojo is a nice organisation to join. Both sound good! I'll past this information along, and I hope the lead teacher can involve their students in