Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-16 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/05/16 22:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Al3xu5 is right, CC0 is specifically designed to address this sort > of thing. Now I'm additionally confused, because I was the one pointing out that this is the point of CC0, and that al3xu5 were wrong in asse

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
This reply is not intended only for the parent message, but also to every reader. The free software movement ins't the same as free culture because, while the Definition of Free Cultural Works and the Debian Free Software Guidelines want non-functional data to also give the essential freedoms[1] (

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-16 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/05/16 17:53, Aaron Wolf wrote: > No, this is a total misunderstanding of CC0. The entire point of > CC0 is that it is better than just saying "public domain". It is > specifically written to have a license fallback and other wording > that make

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-12 Thread Thomas Harding
(unsure who writed) : >That said, I wholly agree with al3xu5. While I do believe in some >aspects >of the free culture movement, specifically that copyright is too >restrictive in its current form and the viewers should have some >rights, I >do not believe that viewers should be able to commerci

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 05/11/2016 01:17 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Il giorno martedì 10/05/2016 14:01:42 CEST > Erik Moeller ha scritto: > >> 2016-05-10 11:08 GMT-07:00 al3xu5 / dotcommon : >> >>> Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries (i.e. Italy) >>> copyright laws do not admit releasi

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno martedì 10/05/2016 14:01:42 CEST Erik Moeller ha scritto: > 2016-05-10 11:08 GMT-07:00 al3xu5 / dotcommon : > > > Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries (i.e. Italy) > > copyright laws do not admit releasing a work as public domain unless after > > many years si

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 05/11/2016 12:33 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Il giorno mercoledì 11/05/2016 09:43:50 CEST > Alexander Berntsen ha scritto: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 10/05/16 20:08, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: >>> Please note that (if I have well understood) in some cou

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno mercoledì 11/05/2016 09:43:50 CEST Alexander Berntsen ha scritto: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/05/16 20:08, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > > Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries > > (i.e. Italy) copyright laws do not admit releas

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 05/11/2016 12:43 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 10/05/16 20:08, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: >> Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries >> (i.e. Italy) copyright laws do not admit releasing a work as >> public domain unless after many years since their creation: so CC0 >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/05/16 13:09, Tyler Romeo wrote: > copyright has nothing to do with ethics. If you're not talking about ethics, then I have no interest in explaining the fallacies in your misguided and unfounded views -- and there's lots of them in your last em

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
Oh boy where do I even begin. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > That doesn't enter into a discussion on ethics. > Well yes, because as I just said, copyright has nothing to do with ethics. I would very much prefer if you stick to a specific set of views rather than j

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/05/16 12:03, Tyler Romeo wrote: > Maybe not all, but quite many of them hope to make a profit from > their creations. That doesn't enter into a discussion on ethics. > Unfortunately, whether you "subscribe" to the world view or not, > the fac

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:42 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > You are using language in which artists are deities, and have some > inherent "rights" that need "protection". I don't subscribe to that > world view, nor do I agree that freedoms for our cultural heritage > isn't as important as free s

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/05/16 11:20, Tyler Romeo wrote: > The free software movement is concerned with end-user freedoms for > *software*, hence the name of the movement. To be specific, > quoting from [0], "Freedom means having control over your own life. > If you u

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > That's like saying that people should have the "freedom" to make > proprietary software. That is not a freedom, it is a power over > others[0]. The free software movement is concerned with end-user > freedoms. > The free software movem

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/05/16 20:08, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries > (i.e. Italy) copyright laws do not admit releasing a work as > public domain unless after many years since their creation: so CC0 > might

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-10 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno lunedì 09/05/2016 20:54:06 CEST Aaron Wolf ha scritto: > Very nice, but I hope it will ever work with Firefox and derivatives. +1 > Also, many of the items I've written I would accept CC0, Please note that (if I have well understood) in some countries (i.e. Italy) copyright laws do

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-09 Thread Aaron Wolf
Very nice, but I hope it will ever work with Firefox and derivatives. Also, many of the items I've written I would accept CC0, but I really prefer CC-BY-SA because I support copyleft as a tactic. I would prefer if the tool allow the full list of CC Free/Libre/Open licenses (i.e. CC0, CC-BY, CC-BY-S

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-09 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-05-09 15:39 GMT-07:00 Sergei Akhmatdinov : > Mentioning a license on your JS would also be helpful, currently LibreJS > doesn't approve. I'm currently using https://www.npmjs.com/package/uglify-save-license to preserve license information in minified/bundled scripts, while also serving the un

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-09 Thread Sergei Akhmatdinov
> [*] Right now the site still requires JavaScript; I'll gradually make > as much of it work without JS as I can (help always appreciated!). Mentioning a license on your JS would also be helpful, currently LibreJS doesn't approve. As for the service itself, I suppose the challenge would be to mak

[libreplanet-discuss] Update on freeyourstuff.cc (content/user liberation)

2016-05-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, https://freeyourstuff.cc/ is a free/libre web service & Chrome/Chromium extension which lets you download contributions you've made to proprietary websites, and release them under a free license. I posted about it here three weeks ago, and have since made lots of little changes and fixes