Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-21 Thread John Sullivan
Alexander Berntsen writes: > On 21/12/15 16:54, Yoni Rabkin wrote: >> But as I said before, try to (as I have) to explain these jokes at >> your company to a room of people who are hostile and/or ignorant >> of free software and the joke loses its shine really fast. > Fuck those people. > This i

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-21 Thread Yoni Rabkin
Alexander Berntsen writes: > On 21/12/15 16:54, Yoni Rabkin wrote: >> But as I said before, try to (as I have) to explain these jokes at >> your company to a room of people who are hostile and/or ignorant >> of free software and the joke loses its shine really fast. > Fuck those people. Really?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-21 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 21/12/15 16:54, Yoni Rabkin wrote: > But as I said before, try to (as I have) to explain these jokes at > your company to a room of people who are hostile and/or ignorant > of free software and the joke loses its shine really fast. Fuck those peo

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-21 Thread Yoni Rabkin
Alexander Berntsen writes: > Geez. It's a joke. Lighten up, people. Yes, I get that it's a joke. We all get it. And if it was just us I wouldn't mind. But as I said before, try to (as I have) to explain these jokes at your company to a room of people who are hostile and/or ignorant of free soft

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-21 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Geez. It's a joke. Lighten up, people. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWeBNVAAoJENQqWdRUGk8BY+YQAMCy4DkHfoBR4erIS+q4cEAO gpa7mcjU1gApQKNCsv1yEO

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-20 Thread Yoni Rabkin
Ramana Kumar writes: > On 20 December 2015 at 03:02, Mark Holmquist > wrote: > > The GPL, for all the good it does in the world, is a more complex > license to administer and enforce. You must include license > headers in all of the files in your project, for example, which > may

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-20 Thread Julien Kyou
On December 19, 2015 2:55:35 PM EST, Ramana Kumar wrote: >On 20 December 2015 at 03:02, Mark Holmquist >wrote: > >> The GPL, for all the good it does in the world, is a more complex >license >> to administer and enforce. You must include license headers in all of >the >> files in your project,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-20 Thread Ramana Kumar
On 20 December 2015 at 03:02, Mark Holmquist wrote: > The GPL, for all the good it does in the world, is a more complex license > to administer and enforce. You must include license headers in all of the > files in your project, for example, which may not be a viable option for > some, or may be

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-19 Thread Julien Kyou
On December 19, 2015 12:57:36 PM EST, Julien Kyou wrote: >Sorry to everyone for "That" > >On December 19, 2015 12:48:13 PM EST, Julien Kyou >wrote: >> >> >>On December 19, 2015 11:02:47 AM EST, Mark Holmquist >> wrote: >>>On 12/18/2015 08:32 PM, Julien Kyou wrote: [0]meaning only this docu

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-19 Thread Julien Kyou
On December 19, 2015 12:52:06 PM EST, Julien Kyou wrote: >Sorry to Mark Holmquist for double send > >On December 19, 2015 12:48:13 PM EST, Julien Kyou >wrote: >> >> >>On December 19, 2015 11:02:47 AM EST, Mark Holmquist >> wrote: >>>On 12/18/2015 08:32 PM, Julien Kyou wrote: [0]meaning onl

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-19 Thread Julien Kyou
On December 19, 2015 12:52:06 PM EST, Julien Kyou wrote: >Sorry to Mark Holmquist for double send > >On December 19, 2015 12:48:13 PM EST, Julien Kyou >wrote: >> >> >>On December 19, 2015 11:02:47 AM EST, Mark Holmquist >> wrote: >>>On 12/18/2015 08:32 PM, Julien Kyou wrote: [0]meaning onl

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-19 Thread Mark Holmquist
On 12/18/2015 08:32 PM, Julien Kyou wrote: [0]meaning only this document not the licensed materials? Yes, the first "Do WTF you want" clause is about the license, not the works being licensed under it. That means the license is also modifiable and adaptable. [1]so basically closing the sou

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-19 Thread Julien Kyou
On December 18, 2015 9:32:15 PM EST, Julien Kyou wrote: > >On 12/18/2015 01:35 PM, Mark Holmquist wrote: >> >> In any case, I'm curious about OP's opinions, because simply posting >a >> license and a few extracts from its website is a poor way to express >an >> argument. Facts are open to interp

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Julien Kyou
On 12/18/2015 01:35 PM, Mark Holmquist wrote: In any case, I'm curious about OP's opinions, because simply posting a license and a few extracts from its website is a poor way to express an argument. Facts are open to interpretation. I guess I should have been clearer this (for anyone how ha

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 12/18/2015 10:35 AM, Mark Holmquist wrote: > And there's nothing wrong with being anti-copyleft, copyleft has its > problems, especially in the case of very small programs. > FWIW, I respect the principled anti-copyleft views from http://copyfree.org but they aren't trashingly anti-GPL or w

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Mark Holmquist
(sorry to Aaron for the double-send, I still haven't gotten used to Thunderbird) On 12/18/2015 11:37 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: What's bad is the way http://wtfpl.net describes it and is sorta anti-copyleft. Also bad about WTFPL is the lack of legal respect or something, but overall it's no worse th

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Yoni Rabkin
Mark Holmquist writes: > On 12/18/2015 05:39 AM, Julien Kyou wrote: >> This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out there" >> >> >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar >> > >> >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified >> copies of this license document

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 12/18/2015 06:52 AM, Mark Holmquist wrote: > On 12/18/2015 05:39 AM, Julien Kyou wrote: >> This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out >> there" >> >> >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar >> > >> >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified >> copie

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Mark Holmquist
On 12/18/2015 05:39 AM, Julien Kyou wrote: This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out there" >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar > >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long as th

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread anonymiss
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:39:40 -0500 Julien Kyou wrote: > This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out > there" > > >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar > > > >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified > >copies of this license document, and changing it i

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread anonymiss
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:39:40 -0500 Julien Kyou wrote: > This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out > there" > > >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar > > > >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified > >copies of this license document, and changing it i

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Julien Kyou
Oh, guess I didn't read that far down On December 18, 2015 6:43:53 AM EST, David Hedlund wrote: >From https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#WTFPL > >WTFPL, Version 2 (#WTFPL >) > >This is a lax

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread David Hedlund
From https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#WTFPL WTFPL, Version 2 (#WTFPL ) This is a lax permissive non-copyleft free software license, compatible with the GNU GPL. We do not recommend

[libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

2015-12-18 Thread Julien Kyou
This pisses me off "Choose Freedom." "Probably the best license out there" >Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar > >Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified copies of >this license document, and changing it is allowed as long as the name is >changed. > >>meaning only this doc