Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
Those are the legalities. Human beings exist outside the law. We are not perfect. This is why we need to be vigilant, to make sure that the movement is never corrupted. This smear campaign against RMS is deeply troubling. Most people are not involved with free software activism; at most,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Aaron Wolf
While I agree *completely* with the concern, the Linux Foundation is a 501(c)(6) with a stated mandate to serve the *business* interests of companies that use Linux. The FSF as a 501(c)(3) with a social mission to promote software freedom *is* susceptible to take-over, but it's not an analogous

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 11:06:36 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > Linus Torvalds, perhaps, as the next FSF President?  :-) You joke about this, but you should never assume that an organization won't degrade in such a manner. For instance, the Linux Foundation and many similar bodies are heavily

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
We should set up a petition advising the FSF to consider lxo as leader of the movement. On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:03:39 -0500 Caleb Herbert wrote: > > > On 09/20/2019 11:28 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > > Let's hope the FSF's next president has a commitment to software > > freedom which

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 23:28:38 -0500 "J.B. Nicholson" wrote: > Let's hope the FSF's next president has a commitment to software > freedom which compares favorably to Stallman's commitment. According > to > https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/freedom-misc/2019-September/004745.html > FSF Vice

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Linus Torvalds, perhaps, as the next FSF President?  :-) Miles Fidelman On 9/21/19 12:28 AM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: Caleb Herbert wrote: Stallman told me I can best help by becoming a member and being diligent about making sure they continue to do what they did when Stallman was still there. I

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 09/20/2019 11:28 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > Let's hope the FSF's next president has a commitment to software freedom > which compares favorably to Stallman's commitment. According to > https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/freedom-misc/2019-September/004745.html > FSF Vice President

[libreplanet-discuss] Why stay or start an FSF membership? To keep funding software freedom.

2019-09-20 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Caleb Herbert wrote: Stallman told me I can best help by becoming a member and being diligent about making sure they continue to do what they did when Stallman was still there. I can believe that and (regardless of who said it) I agree with this advice; the perspective of what we should be