Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-05-01 Thread Zaphod
Not only is it unlikely that any regime could force Facebook or other large data-collection companies to delete this data, but at this point, it is as impossible as stopping Internet piracy, or the spread of free software. http://www.pcworld.com/article/202167/The_Facebook_Data_Torrent_Downloa

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Serge wrote: Unless your friends who use Facebook don't actually upload photos of you and don't talk about you much. I'm guessing it's pretty easy for organizations to browse the web, find images containing faces, index the faces, and tie that to extant records of people's identities. There's

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Dave Rolek
On 04/29/2016 05:42 PM, Rudolf wrote: > It seems more than two people are in agreement with what should be done. > > Someone should start or add on to a wiki page on Libreplanet wiki if > these actions are the right thing to do. It would be nice to have the > above collected discussion in a publicl

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Rudolf
It seems more than two people are in agreement with what should be done. Someone should start or add on to a wiki page on Libreplanet wiki if these actions are the right thing to do. It would be nice to have the above collected discussion in a publicly accessible space -rudolf On Fri, Apr 29, 20

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Serge
> We all have a Facebook account actually, some of us just haven't > activated it yet: > > http://www.dailydot.com/news/facebook-shadow-profiles-privacy-faq/ Unless your friends who use Facebook don't actually upload photos of you and don't talk about you much. I do realize that rarely happens t

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 04/29/2016 11:12 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > And even if you think they don't have it, they probably have the data > of everybody else you know... so they have it. We all have a Facebook account actually, some of us just haven't activated it yet: http://www.dailydot.com/news/facebook-sha

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 29/04/16 11:12, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 29/04/16 05:26, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > > Once Facebook has your data, they have it > And even if you think they don't have it, they probably have the data > of everybody else you know... so they have it. > > The best thing to do is just to get out. E

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-29 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 29/04/16 05:26, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > Once Facebook has your data, they have it And even if you think they don't have it, they probably have the data of everybody else you know... so they have it. The best thing to do is just to get out. Explain

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:30:33 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Is it better for people to go through their profile more vigorously > though, messing up all the data? I don't see that as being useful. Once Facebook has your data, they have it; it'd be naive to think that changing data on Facebook'

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 04/28/2016 10:03 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > That applies to day and month, but not year That's why I said classmates, since they can safely be assumed to be the same age (or in a close range). Also, you are assuming this person (or any of his acquaintances on Facebook or WhatsApp) never once s

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread cryptie
On 28/4/2016 at 10:24 AM, "amunizp" wrote:>Are there any existing articles or blogs that are recommended for >people >going through this process? > only technical not social. AFAIK. RMS lecture or text says to reach out personally, I recall. Friends don't let friends use facebook. >Are there a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread amunizp
>It is easy enough for somebody to take a backup of their Facebook >account and then click to delete it. > Yes facebook is easier than twitter, they need to tick the right boxes to make sure it is not dormant. Skype is trickier, I don't know if I managed in the end. Etsy plainly told me that the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/04/16 09:47, Fabio Pesari wrote: > On 04/28/2016 09:30 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Is it better for people to go through their profile more vigorously >> though, messing up all the data? For example, changing their date of >> birth to something random (if they actually used their real DoB

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 04/28/2016 09:30 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Is it better for people to go through their profile more vigorously > though, messing up all the data? For example, changing their date of > birth to something random (if they actually used their real DoB to begin > with), deleting the groups used to

[libreplanet-discuss] helping friends kill their facebook accounts

2016-04-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
One of the issues that comes up when helping people get off proprietary social media is the amount of data retained even if they close their account. It is easy enough for somebody to take a backup of their Facebook account and then click to delete it. Is it better for people to go through their