Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Regardless, LTDL_INIT is not documented at the moment, and I'm not sure we want to explicitly support use of libltdl except as a subpackage. Although it has been possible to do so for quite some time (if only because libtool itself has done so on and

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-29 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hallo Ralf, On 29 Aug 2005, at 12:43, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Hi Gary, private mail on purpose? Nup, my MUA is playing silly buggers. :-( Might go back to webmail until I've had chance to configure Thunderbird the way it's behaving atm! Grr. [Quoting everything for the sake of readers on

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-28 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Gary, * Gary V. Vaughan wrote on Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 11:56:31PM CEST: > On 22 Aug 2005, at 21:00, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > >Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > >>Furthermore, it has at least this serious bug in its new > >>functionality: > >>- using libltdl but not as subpackage does not work as advert

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-28 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hallo Ralf, On 22 Aug 2005, at 21:00, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Furthermore, it has at least this serious bug in its new functionality: - using libltdl but not as subpackage does not work as advertised (this bug is in part a documentation bug -- LTDL_INIT needs to be s

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-24 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary V. Vaughan wrote: |> |> Hear! Hear! | | | Blast. Seems I'm outvoted. To my mind there are good arguments for | either case... but I'm not rabid about keeping branch-2-0 alive, so if | the concensus is to drop the current branch-2-0 then so be i

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Bob! Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Now, our branch-2-0 testsuite is much inferior, so it's less likely to _find_ some of these bugs. Add to that the fact that I for one do not know of one single bug present in HEAD but not in branch-2-0. This is why I w

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hallo Ralf, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: I believe you just contradicted yourself. I'm good at that :-) But you have to really pay attention to catch me out! :-p If you put big patches into a release branch, you're by definition _not_ stabilizing it! More to the point: both the recent commits

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Now, our branch-2-0 testsuite is much inferior, so it's less likely to _find_ some of these bugs. Add to that the fact that I for one do not know of one single bug present in HEAD but not in branch-2-0. This is why I would branch the next stable off

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Gary V. Vaughan wrote on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 04:03:20PM CEST: > Albert Chin wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:11:48AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > >> > >>So my point is: get HEAD stable now, then branch off and make 2.59/1.9.6 > >>compatible there. Then bootstrap the release with the coup

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:03:20PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Albert Chin wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:11:48AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > > >>So my point is: get HEAD stable now, then branch off and make > >>2.59/1.9.6 compatible there. Then bootstrap the release with the > >>c

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:11:48AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Albert Chin wrote on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 04:41:58AM CEST: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: I kept quiet a while ago when Bob fir

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-23 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:11:48AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Albert Chin wrote on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 04:41:58AM CEST: > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > > > Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: > > > >I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggest

TODO for 2.x (was: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD)

2005-08-23 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Gary V. Vaughan wrote on Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 10:00:50PM CEST: > > Is there a public record of these? TODO file? Search string for the > list archives? next mail in this thread? ;-) The following is not very well ordered, not very well cross-referenced, has nonempty overlap with the in-tree T

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Albert Chin wrote on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 04:41:58AM CEST: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > > Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: > > >I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggested ditching the CVS > > >branch-2-0 and releasing CVS HEAD as 2.0 after a

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Albert Chin
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > [Moved to libtool list] > > Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: > >I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggested ditching the CVS > >branch-2-0 and releasing CVS HEAD as 2.0 after a bit of stabilization. > >Now I estimate

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hallo Ralf, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Gary V. Vaughan wrote on Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 08:54:59PM CEST: Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggested ditching the CVS branch-2-0 and releasing CVS HEAD as 2.0 after a bit of stabilization. The only

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Noah Misch
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > [1] Autoconf-2.60 needs M4-2.0 needs Libtool-2.0 (ISTR that For what does Autoconf need M4 2.0? ___ http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/libtool

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Gary, * Gary V. Vaughan wrote on Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 08:54:59PM CEST: > [Moved to libtool list] Thanks. > Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: > >I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggested ditching the CVS > >branch-2-0 and releasing CVS HEAD as 2.0 after a bit of stabilization.

Re: branch-2-0 vs CVS HEAD

2005-08-22 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
[Moved to libtool list] Ralf Wildenhues wrote on libtool-patches: I kept quiet a while ago when Bob first suggested ditching the CVS branch-2-0 and releasing CVS HEAD as 2.0 after a bit of stabilization. Now I estimate that, for us combined, it might save us a man month (whoohoo, maybe even a my