Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-12-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For all dolt junkies, and whoever claims autotools and esp. libtool > are performance hogs: yes, they are still not the fastest thing in > the world. But we are getting better: > > As an example, I built the ompi/ subdir

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: I doubt that the version Ralf tested is dramatically faster than the already released libtool 2.2.6. There is a point of diminishing returns. Actually, current git has a few more improvements, and I have a couple more in mind. I haven't measure the

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-24 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 05:29:07AM CET: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Michel Briand wrote: >> >> Which version is it, or at least what's the target version / date of >> release ? And when will this be available to Debian fans ? > > I doubt that the version Ralf tested is dramatical

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-24 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Michel Briand wrote: Which version is it, or at least what's the target version / date of release ? And when will this be available to Debian fans ? I doubt that the version Ralf tested is dramatically faster than the already released libtool 2.2.6. There is a point of d

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-24 Thread Michel Briand
Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:51:53 +0100 >For all dolt junkies, and whoever claims autotools and esp. libtool >are performance hogs: yes, they are still not the fastest thing in >the world. But we are getting better: > WOW! Great performances ;) >As an example, I b

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-23 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Bob, * Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 06:20:04PM CET: > > I suspect that the 5% which Bob once rashly decreed as goal may be > achieved by increasing the compilation optimization level. Well, Bob is the guy looking at you in the mirror each morning, and those 5% are achieved w

Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-23 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: What does this mean? Going from (1) to (2) gives 22% saving in absolute build time. Meanwhile, the build system overhead (time not spent inside gcc, ar, ld) went from 38% of the total build time down to 17%. That's not yet the 5% which Bob once decr

just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

2008-11-23 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
For all dolt junkies, and whoever claims autotools and esp. libtool are performance hogs: yes, they are still not the fastest thing in the world. But we are getting better: As an example, I built the ompi/ subdirectory of OpenMPI on a two-way GNU/Linux system using bash, with 1) Autoconf 2.61, Au