Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 4/24/12 03:45, "Pete Batard" wrote: > >If you think he's only been guilty of acting slowly, then how short your >memory is... > >Remember his stance on RERO and his statement that it is possible to >write code with no issues, and that getting early user feedback wasn't >that important? >Remembe

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 4/23/12 14:53, "Pete Batard" wrote: > >OK, maybe you are confused by the fact that I am using platform as a >build environment rather than an actual platform system (mostly because >Windows could be considered as 3 slightly different systems depending on >whether your libusbx based app was buil

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Xiaofan Chen
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Xiaofan Chen wrote: >> once we announced the fork, suddenly Peter went into action and >> pushed many patches > > I'm sorry, but that's not accurate. As I mentioned earlier in this > thread I had included everything I could find that was pendin

Re: [Libusbx-devel] Add struct libusb_version members rc and describe

2012-04-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Hans de Goede wrote: > my vote *in this case* goes to adding the 2 fields. I pushed the attached commit to libusb-stuge.git x/version_rc_describe which is based on current libusbx.git master. Anyone wanting to apply the change can grab the patch, or maybe save time with: git fetch git://git.libu

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.04.23 13:15, Michael Plante wrote: > Peter's recently been very accommodating about copying patches that he > probably doesn't want in libusb, and quickly. I don't know if you've > noticed that. Yeah. Isn't it strange what people will do when they realize that, far from what they believe

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.04.23 18:31, Garret Kelly wrote: > I'll agree with you that end-users and developers may prefer a fork of > a given project, but many modern distributions offer both sides of a > forked package, and even multiple versions of the forked packages in > the case of the JRE. Additionally,_becaus

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Xiaofan Chen wrote: > once we announced the fork, suddenly Peter went into action and > pushed many patches I'm sorry, but that's not accurate. As I mentioned earlier in this thread I had included everything I could find that was pending into libusb.git, and I was expecting some comments on those

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Xiaofan Chen
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 04/23/2012 07:31 PM, Garret Kelly wrote: >> Then we should begin actively discussing this issue with the people >> who it _is_ up to. Preferably who're going to be doing the distro >> packaging, because they're going to want to be

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 04/23/2012 07:31 PM, Garret Kelly wrote: > Then we should begin actively discussing this issue with the people > who it _is_ up to. Preferably who're going to be doing the distro > packaging, because they're going to want to be a part of this. > Short self intro: I'm a libusb developer *an

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Vincent Pelletier
Le lundi 23 avril 2012 19:31:06, Garret Kelly a écrit : > Please pardon my intrusion into this discussion, I'm simply an avid > fan of the library and an interested user. [...] > Garret Did I inadvertendly send one of my early response draft ? Sir, please stop spying inside my head :p . Agreed f

Re: [Libusbx-devel] [Libusb-devel] libusb is dead - long live libusbx!

2012-04-23 Thread Tim Roberts
Jose Pablo wrote: > > I think Vincent is right. I am pretty sure you guys have a lot of good > ideas for the library but if you keep that attitude you will not get > it serious. It seen you guys are taking the project by force I think that's the intent, yes. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Provi

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 04/23/2012 02:02 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > Once again, if the majority votes to have the field, I'll go with it. Ok. > But I hope that doesn't prevent me from trying to indicate why I see it > as a bad idea. If you've somehow understood anything I've said as "please shut up", I'm sorry th

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Plante
Pete Batard wrote: >> If we go this route it means that every time Peter wants us to implement >> an half-assed solution that we shouldn't follow in the first place, Peter's recently been very accommodating about copying patches that he probably doesn't want in libusb, and quickly. I don't know i

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.04.23 12:56, Hans de Goede wrote: > Your really showing that you're running out of sane arguments here, > first of all any sane version check to work around bugs will use the > integer field rather then relying on string parsing, Which only works fine for a project that actually releases.

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 04/23/2012 01:53 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > On 2012.04.23 11:57, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > I think Hans' and probably Michael's views are mostly with regards to a > libusb compiled app, using a shared libusb library that has been > replaced with libusbx. > > Since we're dealing with extra field,

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 04/23/2012 12:12 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > On 2012.04.23 08:40, Hans de Goede wrote: >> I can understand you not being happy with these addons, but without them >> code compiled against Peter's version of get_version may crash, so I >> strongly >> prefer adding them (despite your concerns) >

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.04.23 11:57, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: >> In its current implementation, as I explained, I very much see Peter's >> versioning buggy as it unnecessarily breaks cross-platform, > > This is not clear to me, someone cares to educate why and how this > breaks cross-platform. OK, maybe you are confu

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 4/23/12 13:12, "Pete Batard" wrote: >If we go this route it means that every time Peter wants us to implement >an half-assed solution that we shouldn't follow in the first place, he >just has to arrange a way to make an app crash when switching to >libusbx, and lo and behold, we are forced to c

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.04.23 08:40, Hans de Goede wrote: > I can understand you not being happy with these addons, but without them > code compiled against Peter's version of get_version may crash, so I > strongly > prefer adding them (despite your concerns) Well, my concerns go a bit further than that. If we g

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx git repo updated

2012-04-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 04/22/2012 03:16 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > On 2012.04.21 09:47, Hans de Goede wrote: >> While talking about syncing to Peter's tree, I've noticed that he has >> added 2 fields to our new libusb_version struct. Luckily we only return and >> never take a pointer to that struct so we can safely