On 26.06.24 16:19, Roland Turner via License-discuss wrote:
On 26/6/24 20:42, Dirk Riehle wrote:
It works for CiviCRM (non-profit) like it works (worked) for SugarCRM
(commercial). If you can AGPL the whole application without additional
permissive client library shims etc, it works as intend
Dirk and fellow license-discussants,
I just joined the list and don't know how to reply on an existing
thread [0]. Apologies for likely starting a new one.
> Application vendors who could open source choose to go directly to
> source-available. Example on my mind: GitButler; could have been
> pla
Thanks, Richard.
On 16.06.24 16:08, Richard Fontana wrote:
...
This alarmist theory of AGPL interpretation never really caught on
after this brief period, possibly in part because no one wanted to
contend what I think was implied, that either (1) the scope of
copyleft under AGPLv3 section 13 was
On 26/6/24 20:42, Dirk Riehle wrote:
On 20.06.24 02:35, Josh Berkus wrote:
> A lot of this discussion has been around the AGPL "failing" startups
> who wanted to use it to protect themselves from web service competition.
>
> This is not that the AGPL was written for.
>
> The AGPL was written f
On 20.06.24 02:35, Josh Berkus wrote:
A lot of this discussion has been around the AGPL "failing" startups
who wanted to use it to protect themselves from web service competition.
This is not that the AGPL was written for.
The AGPL was written for projects like CiviCRM, which had a direct
th
A lot of this discussion has been around the AGPL "failing" startups who
wanted to use it to protect themselves from web service competition.
This is not that the AGPL was written for.
The AGPL was written for projects like CiviCRM, which had a direct
threat of "embrace and extend" by propriet
On 17/6/24 00:08, Dirk Riehle wrote:
Thanks for the answer.
>> Is there any recognized published statement that explains whether the
>> AGPL achieves a network copyleft effect as intended or not? And if the
>> conclusion is that it doesn't what's the alternative if you want this
>> effect?
>
> A
On 14.06.24 00:42, Kate Downing wrote:
I wrote about this at length here:
https://katedowninglaw.com/2019/09/08/the-great-open-source-shake-up/
Thanks again; I read it (twice). It is an enjoyable description of the
IP / business strategies behind single-vendor open source cloud
infrastructure
Thanks for the answer.
Is there any recognized published statement that explains whether the
AGPL achieves a network copyleft effect as intended or not? And if the
conclusion is that it doesn't what's the alternative if you want this
effect?
AGPL doesn't intend a "network effect" — at least no
On 14.06.24 01:48, Matt Wilson wrote:
First, I think it's important to recognize that when I post things
on Twitter from my personal account, I'm doing so in an individual
capacity.
It wasn't just you. In the end I mostly got "everyone believes it is not
working so it is not working." Social
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:30 PM Dirk Riehle wrote:
>
> If I believe various representatives (on Twitter and
> elsewhere) of companies like AWS, they believe they can use AGPL
> licensed code and the copyleft effect is wholly contained/doesn't affect
> their tech stack at all. Those who pushed sour
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 3:36 PM Dirk Riehle wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wrote this email three times and discarded it; I simply don't know how
> to ask.
>
> Final try. If I believe various representatives (on Twitter and
> elsewhere) of companies like AWS, they believe they can use AGPL
Firs
On 14/6/24 06:29, Dirk Riehle wrote:
Hello everyone,
I wrote this email three times and discarded it; I simply don't know how
to ask.
Final try. If I believe various representatives (on Twitter and
elsewhere) of companies like AWS, they believe they can use AGPL
licensed code and the copyleft
As to your question about issues with the SSPL, at least for me it comes
down to this language in section 13:
“Service Source Code” means the Corresponding Source for the Program or the
modified version, and the Corresponding Source for all programs that you
use to make the Program or modified ver
I wrote about this at length here:
https://katedowninglaw.com/2019/09/08/the-great-open-source-shake-up/
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 3:30 PM Dirk Riehle wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wrote this email three times and discarded it; I simply don't know how
> to ask.
>
> Final try. If I believe various
Hello everyone,
I wrote this email three times and discarded it; I simply don't know how
to ask.
Final try. If I believe various representatives (on Twitter and
elsewhere) of companies like AWS, they believe they can use AGPL
licensed code and the copyleft effect is wholly contained/doesn't
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