Re: [License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-07 Thread Bruce Perens via License-discuss
This is really very simple. Nations are sovereign powers. You can read up on what a sovereign power is. They have to agree to be sued. To make a license that would stop Putin from bombing Ukraine would require the existence of a god who enforced licenses. Within a nation you can to some degree

Re: [License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-06 Thread Roland Turner via License-discuss
On 7/2/24 01:45, Pamela Chestek wrote: Instead I think it's a practical problem. Licenses are not self-enforcing, someone has to bring a legal claim for enforcement. Only the licensor can enforce the contract (unless the license has a third party beneficiary, in which case the third party can

Re: [License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-06 Thread Roland Turner via License-discuss
On 6/2/24 23:39, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Question for the wider group: Can you point me to a document (legal or otherwise) that argues the unenforceability of ethical clauses, like these ones? Not on unenforceability but on harm to F/OSS communities, I spoke on The critical importance of

Re: [License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-06 Thread Pamela Chestek
On 2/6/2024 7:39 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Question for the wider group: Can you point me to a document (legal or otherwise) that argues the unenforceability of ethical clauses, like these ones? I don't know that there is such a document, at least not under US law. We take a very liberal

Re: [License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Feb 6, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Mihai > wrote: >> We are happy to remove the restriction of use for positive ecological >> conservation and sustainability, yet we are not happy to allow usage of

[License-discuss] documentation on un-enforceability of ethical licenses? (was Re: License Review Request - Anu Initiative

2024-02-06 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Mihai wrote: > We are happy to remove the restriction of use for positive ecological > conservation and sustainability, yet we are not happy to allow usage of the > product for means that significantly harms the environment - as this would > go against our