Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Jacques Chester
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: snip Certainly the GPL has worked well here. Writing a compiler is enough of a pain in the ass that dealing with the GPL, regardless of your objections, is likely worthwhile. The GPL has had many areas of success. I wonder, out of sheer

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Wilfredo Sanchez
| Obviously, the GPL is aimed at being "user-protective" rather than | "business-protective". No. It's "author-protective". You write software. You want people to use it (for whatever reasons), but you have certain restrictions you use on usage to protect you as the author. This is

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:13:25 -0700 From: Wilfredo Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do you mean by this that if the GPL were more specific in its | allowances and prohibitions, it would make for more acceptance and a | better license? Most certainly. For starters, it should

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: For example, I'd submit that _reference_ is derivation where software is concerned. If you call into my library from your program, it's a derived work. Then in your view, only GPL-compatible programs can be run under Linux? -- John Cowan

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread John Cowan
Kyle Rose scripsit: [T]he LGPL, the license under which the major libraries are released, specifically allows non-free programs to link to binaries under that license. The kernel, however (which is just another library), is under the GPL. I know that Linus explicitly states that the GPL's

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Seth David Schoen
John Cowan writes: Kyle Rose scripsit: [T]he LGPL, the license under which the major libraries are released, specifically allows non-free programs to link to binaries under that license. The kernel, however (which is just another library), is under the GPL. I know that Linus

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Seth David Schoen
Matthew C. Weigel writes: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Seth David Schoen wrote: It could be viewed as an additional permission, making Linux dual-licensed, except that Linus doesn't have authority to grant that permission on behalf of all of the other developers -- who presumably have the

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Wilfredo Sanchez
| For example, I'd submit that _reference_ is derivation where software is | concerned. If you call into my library from your program, it's a derived | work. However, copyright law doesn't take that into account and is only | concerned with copying. And therein lies a serious problem,

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Kyle Rose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Postulate that you write an application that works with a library full of no-op stubs. That library just happens to match the interface of a GPL-ed product I've written, and with that library it is a functioning product. Then you ship that

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread bruce
From: Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, as much as I love the GPL, I don't think this is enforcable. Remember that the GPL covers only distribution, not use; hence, if the distribution of a work linked against a library interface (even that for which only a GPL'ed implementation

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Postulate that you write an application that works with a library full of no-op stubs. That library just happens to match the interface of a GPL-ed product I've written, and with that library it is a functioning product. Then you ship that application with the _intent_ that the user combine