Re: Help on mail attachment

2000-03-24 Thread Raju
>That is, are you having trouble downloading license documents? Anything being downloaded via ftp is very very slow when compared to those that come along as email attachment. > >Are you wondering whether providing an e-mail responder is an appropriate >way to provide access to source code as req

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: > I am sorry, but these assertions are incorrect. Have you ever rented a car, > purchased an airline ticket, acquired a credit card, or undertaken a number > of transactions in modern life where you assent to the terms of a contract > (call it a

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
I think David is right on target. He is pointing out an issue I have written about in an article recently. There certainly are copyright qualities of copyleft. Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. www.cyberspaces.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
David, I completely agree with your point. This is a difficult issue. Copyeft is an attempt to get around the scooping out problem. In doing so, it brings about its own copyright problem. Rod > -Original Message- > From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 24

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Cowan > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 5:35 PM > To: W. Yip > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Violation" > > > "W. Yip" wrote: > > > In the context of GPL, I wish to question whether there is

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
> > IANAL, but I agree with you. The GNU GPL and other open source > "licenses" > > (whether that term is justly applied to them is another matter) > are in fact > > conditional non-exclusive transfers of copyright. They are not > contracts not only > > for technical reasons (lack of considerati

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: > Agreed. The difficulty, however, is that when something is added to the > public domain (which is becoming more and more difficult), anyone can scoop > it back out. You can "scoop" as much as you want out of the public domain, but it will stil

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Mark Koek wrote: > The GPL is dishonest, then? I didn't say that! Nowhere within it does it say it is not property, and plenty of places where it acknowledges it is guarding a piece of intellectual property. But I hear a lot of statements to the effect that "copyleft is not

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Seth David Schoen
John Cowan writes: > "W. Yip" wrote: > > > In the context of GPL, I wish to question whether there is a contract in > > every case. The OSD s.7 'Distribution of License' stresses that no > > subsequent execution of additional license is required for redistribution. > > This implies that the OSS

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread John Cowan
"W. Yip" wrote: > In the context of GPL, I wish to question whether there is a contract in > every case. The OSD s.7 'Distribution of License' stresses that no > subsequent execution of additional license is required for redistribution. > This implies that the OSS License is 'automatic'. This giv

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Agreed. The difficulty, however, is that when something is added to the public domain (which is becoming more and more difficult), anyone can scoop it back out. Copyleft attempts to foi this recursive conundrum, but it does so in a manner not entirely appealing; that's why RMS has alientated so ma

RE: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
> -Original Message- > From: W. Yip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Violation" > > Thank you for the reply. I am aware of UCITA, though I cannot say I have a > comprehensive understanding of it. From what you menti

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread Mark Koek
David Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, W. Yip wrote: > > > Conventional licenses are more restrictive, while OSS licenses > > are so permissive, even 'viral', that the license threatens the very > > foundations of the notion of copyright as property. > > I hope not! If no one owned emacs

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, W. Yip wrote: > Conventional licenses are more restrictive, while OSS licenses > are so permissive, even 'viral', that the license threatens the very > foundations of the notion of copyright as property. I hope not! If no one owned emacs or gcc, then there would be no one t

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread W . Yip
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:30:51 +1200, "j.Maxwell Legg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >W.Yip was referring specifically to alterations to a an old bare license that had no >subject matter and was only a set of terms. Hi. I am afraid you have misread me. I hope my subsequent postings serve to clarify t

Re: "Violation"

2000-03-24 Thread W . Yip
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:21:53 -0500, "Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In a word, the answer to your question is NO. >I am sure you have heard of "UCITA" by now. The purpose of this proposed >uniform legislation is to set the ground rules for contracts involving >information tran

Help on mail attachment

2000-03-24 Thread Raju
Friends, Getting downloads of source material via ftp is consuming a lot of internet time, interrupted quite often by long silence and even loss of link. Is there any way by which the requested matter can be sent as attachment via e-mail ? i.e., if I request for a download from a site, the request