Re: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread Roger Browne
"Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M." wrote: > > The Eiffel "license" ... > ... may be too "permissive" to constitute an enforceable > agreement...in that it appears to lack consideration. I am aware that in some countries, a consideration is required to make a contract enforceable. But does that also apply

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread David Johnson
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: > I understand. Certainly, you, as the copyright holder, may impose as few > restrictions on users as you desire. Nothing wrong with that. There is > another issue, however. Copyleft is an attempt by some people who believe in > "free" software to

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
I have not read the BSD licenses in a while, but I know that the FSF/Richard Stallman argues that they have no copyleft provision. Again, the absence of a copyleft provision in a public license is not a critical failure to maintaining an open source/free software project, but the absence of copyle

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: > Someone, I have forgotten who, sorry, made an interesting comment about the > enforceability of GPLs, generally. I agree that it is an open question > whether a court would enforce some public licenses. If a license lacks > consideration, it'

Re: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Someone, I have forgotten who, sorry, made an interesting comment about the > enforceability of GPLs, generally. I agree that it is an open question > whether a court would enforce some public licenses. If a license lacks > consideration, it's

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread David Johnson
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Patrick Doyle wrote: > Legally, you can do two things: > > 1. Adhere to the terms of the license. > 2. Don't make copies of the software. > > Is it not that simple? (Please excuse my ignorance. :-) That's the way I have always viewed licenses. You have a limited set of r

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, David Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Patrick Doyle wrote: > > > Legally, you can do two things: > > > > 1. Adhere to the terms of the license. > > 2. Don't make copies of the software. > > > > Is it not that simple? (Please excuse my ignorance. :-) > [...] > > I

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread David Johnson
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: > I have not read the BSD licenses in a while, but I know that the FSF/Richard > Stallman argues that they have no copyleft provision. > ... > Consequently, I think this is a rather appropriate time to discuss > the BSD and other public licenses.

RE: Eiffel Forum License

2000-04-30 Thread David Johnson
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Patrick Doyle wrote: > Aha, I see what you mean. It seems that this goes beyond copyright law > into the territory of contract law. I know nothing about the latter--and > almost nothing about the former--but it is far from obvious that such > "licenses" are legally binding.