Rick Moen wrote:
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> begin Rodent of Unusual Size quotation:
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> >> This has the beneficial effect of making it
> >> harder to create Yet Another open source license.
> >
> > I continue to feel that the 'benefit' is a matter of
> > opinion, not a certainty nor natural law.
>
> Licence compatibi
This email came to me this morning. Ximian vs Microsoft in Mexico is being
discussed on /. this morning aswell.
-Steve
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From: "Russ Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 'Discouraging proliferation' != 'making it harder to create'.
> This attitude seems equivalent to saying, 'Okey, we have all the
> good licencing ideas there ever will be, close the doors'
Spot the irrelevant straw-man argument. No points.
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Rick Moen wrote:
>
> begin Rodent of Unusual Size quotation:
>
> > 'Discouraging proliferation' != 'making it harder to create'.
> > This attitude seems equivalent to saying, 'Okey, we have all the
> > good licencing ideas there ever will be, close the doors'
>
> Spot the irrelevant straw-m
begin Rodent of Unusual Size quotation:
> Um, excuse me? I suspect I would like to respond, but since your
> remark is so cryptic I am not sure ehat it is saying..
To be really explicit, then: You indulged the time-honoured pastime of
setting up a caricature of your interlocutor's position and
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http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/straw.htm
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#strawman
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Rick Moen wrote:
>
> To be really explicit, then: You indulged the time-honoured
> pastime of setting up a caricature of your interlocutor's
> position and then knocking it down.
If I did, I assure you it was unintentional. :-) If anything,
I think you may have been guilty of this before I, si
For those that haven't seen, NewsForge is carrying a none-to-flattering
story of the discussion on this list these past couple of weeks:
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/04/1615251
-drew
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Hi all,
I'd like to submit the RealNetworks' RTSP Proxy license for OSI
certification. The text of the license can be found at the URL below as
well as in section B of this email:
http://www.rtsp.org/2001/proxy/license.html
Thanks
Rob
==
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 15:03, M. Drew Streib wrote:
> For those that haven't seen, NewsForge is carrying a none-to-flattering
> story of the discussion on this list these past couple of weeks:
> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/04/1615251
Yes, it's weird when people do report
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:50:24PM -0400, Joseph Reagle wrote:
> Amaya). It's also subsequently been stated that while SourceForge relies
> upon the OSI list as a white list, they're willing to accept other projects
> at their discretion; they've kindly accomodated HTML Tidy under the W3C
I li
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 15:46, Rob Lanphier wrote:
> I'd like to submit the RealNetworks' RTSP Proxy license for OSI
> certification. The text of the license can be found at the URL below as
> well as in section B of this email:
> http://www.rtsp.org/2001/proxy/license.html
Hi Rob, my com
begin Rodent of Unusual Size quotation:
> Or, to quote Russ exactly, "This has the beneficial effect of making
> it harder to create Yet Another open source license."
The correctness of Russ's statement as posted should be apparent. I
fail to see the utility of debate.
> I agree with keeping t
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> "This has the beneficial effect of making it harder to create Yet
> Another open source license."
>
> I agree with keeping the number of essentially identical licences to
> a minimum. I do *not* agree with accomplishing that by discouraging
> p
Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > Or, to quote Russ exactly, "This has the beneficial effect of making
> > it harder to create Yet Another open source license."
>
> The correctness of Russ's statement as posted should be apparent. I
> fail to see the utility of debate.
Well, then, I guess you fail to see
"Matthew C. Weigel" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>
> > "This has the beneficial effect of making it harder to create Yet
> > Another open source license."
>
> To address that statement in particular, it was reducing the
> workload placed uon the volunteers of the
Hum, there are some things i did not like in reading this article, but in
general it's correct.
One thing remains form this article, I heard your scream for help Mr. Russ
Nelson, and IMHO, i will review those licenses ASAP.
A note to Tina Gasperson, please keep in mind that this is a open mail
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Joseph Reagle wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2001 15:03, M. Drew Streib wrote:
> > For those that haven't seen, NewsForge is carrying a none-to-flattering
> > story of the discussion on this list these past couple of weeks:
> > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/09
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Given the current process, that is most likely true. But since
> I do not believe the current process is as good as it could be,
> I do not consider that truth to be an absolute one.
Neither do I.
> Possible improvement #1: if the load is too
begin Rodent of Unusual Size quotation:
> Well, then, I guess you fail to see it.
We concur, for suitable values of "it".
> That does not make the statement correct, however.
Also true: Its accuracy may be assessed independently. (I can
recommend some good books on formal logic, should you
"Matthew C. Weigel" wrote:
>
> I think we agree on everything but the value of trying to get the
> current process more effective over doing a complete overhaul.
Okey, I can go along with that. :-)
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Rob Lanphier said:
>Hi all,
>
>I'd like to submit the RealNetworks' RTSP Proxy license for OSI
>certification. The text of the license can be found at the URL below as
>well as in section B of this email:
>http://www.rtsp.org/2001/proxy/license.html
>
>Thanks
>Rob
>=
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> > I think we agree on everything but the value of trying to get the
> > current process more effective over doing a complete overhaul.
>
> Okey, I can go along with that. :-)
To clarify my statements (I didn't expect agreement or I wouldn't hav
I personally checked Tina's NewsForge story before publication. She did
not use any of the personal attacks that have appeared on this
discussion list, but quouted only comments and questions about the
licensing process itself and how it might be improved.
> I agree. I wish they had, rather than
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:03 pm, M. Drew Streib wrote:
> For those that haven't seen, NewsForge is carrying a none-to-flattering
> story of the discussion on this list these past couple of weeks:
> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/04/1615251
Egads! They quoted me!
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Robin \"Roblimo\" Miller writes:
> I personally checked Tina's NewsForge story before publication. She did
> not use any of the personal attacks that have appeared on this
> discussion list,
Darn! I worked hard on them! :-) Good ad-hominem is hard to write.
Otherwise, Tina's story was fine
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