Re: lesser GPL restrictions

2001-11-12 Thread Chris D. Sloan
For the concrete example of Microsoft using parts of Linux, they would legally have to release the source of Windows under the GPL. This will *never* happen while pigs remain land bound animals, but if it did, I'm sure that the Free Software Foundation (and anyone who believes in the philosophy w

Re: GPL under MacOS and NewtonOS

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Gehlker
On 11/12/01 2:38 PM, "Paul Guyot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fine. Actually, the problem rose with a very practical problem. Can > one release VNC client or MAD library which are both GPL'd under > NewtonOS. I'm trying to figure out what the issue here exactly taking > examples with MacOS Power

Re: Redistributions must retain this list of conditions

2001-11-12 Thread John Cowan
Paul Guyot wrote: > The big problem is BSD requiring to retain the list of conditions. Here > as well, we're back to the subject of the thread. If it didn't require > this, I agree that it would be fully compatible with the GPL (with > section 1 of the GPL allowing to keep copyright & disclai

Re: Redistributions must retain this list of conditions

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Guyot
>>>Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright >>>notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. >> >>means that I have to retain the list of conditions from the BSD >>license or the list of conditions from another license (say GPL) if >>my code is licensed und

Re: GPL under MacOS and NewtonOS

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Guyot
>If, like Metrowerks, you include the source for F with every copy of your >compiler, then yes it is. You cannot release PowerPlant source, so either we infringe section 1 of the OSD or section 2, at your choice. > > What's the difference in the GPL between this solution and developing > > a

Re: Redistributions must retain this list of conditions

2001-11-12 Thread John Cowan
Paul Guyot wrote: >> Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, >> this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. > > means that I have to retain the list of conditions from the BSD license > or the list of conditions from another license (say GPL) if my cod

Re: GPL under MacOS and NewtonOS

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Gehlker
On 11/12/01 4:19 AM, "Paul Guyot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This analogy doesn't fit. Everyone who has Mac CodeWarrior has PowerPlant. > > Well, I'd admit that, although each version of CW comes with a new > incompatible version of PowerPlant but the compilers remain > compatible (if not ide

Re: Redistributions must retain this list of conditions

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Guyot
>I'm not sure, since that clause is basically obsolete (though the >Apache License still has it). I think that it applies to all >derivative works, however. What's the difference with clause 1 and 2, they don't apply to all derivative works? (this was my primary problem, sorry to repeat it). >

Re: GPL under MacOS and NewtonOS

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Guyot
>I think the deal here is that things normally distributed with >*the compiler* are no problem, even if the compiler isn't normally >distributed with the OS. After all, Solaris is distributed without >a compiler, and nobody doubts that you can compile GNU utilities >with the (non-free) cc. As I

Re: GPL under MacOS and NewtonOS

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Guyot
>This analogy doesn't fit. Everyone who has Mac CodeWarrior has PowerPlant. Well, I'd admit that, although each version of CW comes with a new incompatible version of PowerPlant but the compilers remain compatible (if not identical for the 68K one) within versions. So I guess you agree with th