OSD #1 proposed change

2001-11-13 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > It still makes a _wonderful_ manifesto, its success speaks for that. But to > apply it blindly would be foolhardy. I imagine that there is an unbounded set > of licenses that appear to be OSD-compliant yet are so pernicious in their > terms as to be outside of th

Fails OSD #1. [Re: OSD compliant shareware]

2001-11-13 Thread Bruce Perens
Hi Forrest, I think it's possible to create any number of licenses that violate the spirit of the OSD while following the letter. However, I don't think this example is one of them. Your #4 doesn't pass OSD #1, which requires that sale be permitted. It's been pointed out that: 1. The OSD is not

OSD compliant shareware

2001-11-13 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Bruce, In September 2001 on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, there was a posting referencing the appeal court ruling of MAI vs Peak. It is the understanding that parts of the ruling were overturned by the DMCA, (specifically adding an allowed use at 17 USC 117 (c)) But one of the opinions in

Re: Usage of Open Source Licensed software as service

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Gehlker
On 11/13/01 8:43 AM, "Ruslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i am not into thinking to restrict people who use my code todo something, > i am thinking about legal issues (or problems, or decisions) person can run > into, if uses open source code for creating dynamical pages on some site. > > shoul

Re: Usage of Open Source Licensed software as service

2001-11-13 Thread Ruslan
- Original Message - From: "Chris Gehlker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Open Source" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Usage of Open Source Licensed software as service > On 11/9/01 2:12 AM, "Ruslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > Ca

Re: Usage of Open Source Licensed software as service

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Gehlker
On 11/9/01 2:12 AM, "Ruslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > > Can i ask respectfull subcribers of this mailing list one important for > me(and I hope for others too), question? > > I am designing a project, which being developed and licensed under GPL, will > offer platform for e-commer

Usage of Open Source Licensed software as service

2001-11-13 Thread Ruslan
Hi all! Can i ask respectfull subcribers of this mailing list one important for me(and I hope for others too), question? I am designing a project, which being developed and licensed under GPL, will offer platform for e-commerce, for using in commercial environment. Simply saying, it will be a s

RE: Open source shareware?

2001-11-13 Thread David Davies
On Friday, 9 November 2001 11:50 AM David Johnson Wrote: +AD4APg- On Thursday 08 November 2001 08:05 am, Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: +AD4APg- +AD4- Can someone point out the OSD violation of a shareware license such as +AD4APg- +AD4- the following? I realize it violates the spirit of the OSD

Re: Copyright in contracts/licenses (was: Re: [Approval request]CMGPL licence)

2001-11-13 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:08:08PM -0500, Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > For better or worse, the GPL is a document copyrighted by the Free > > Software Foundation and they have not granted permission to make > > derivative works. > >