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We seek to spread our ideas, meme like, through both non-commercial
and commercial channels We do not seek to restrict use of our
software by anyone, and for the most part our licence is bog-standard
OSS stuff, but we do have some weird demands on them should they do;
like a
Hi Forrest,
I think you have missed the finer points of the APOSSL comments inline below
At 11:24 AM -0500 5/3/02, Forrest J Cavalier III wrote:
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This is not a Free software license because clause 4 requires
promotion of derivatives I should be free to create a derivative
and keep it
dave sag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part
Clause 4 does NOT require promition of derivatives at all. Should you
never obtain written permission, you never need endorse anything.
4. The names Pronoic, or pronoic.org must be used to endorse and
promote products derived from this software
pronoic is a word (albeit a made up word) meaning the opposite of
paranoic it is also a name, but so is apple, and netscape and
apache they can use their name in their own licences
Undefined words no place in legal documents
If a made up word appears, or is offset in it will be
the key here is the qualifying 'before obtaining written permission'.
should you NEVER obtain written permission you never need endorse
anything. if this is not clear from the wording then i am happy to
ammend the clause for clarity.
cheers
dave
At 12:29 PM -0500 5/3/02, Forrest J Cavalier
At 12:37 PM -0500 5/3/02, Forrest J Cavalier III wrote:
pronoic is a word (albeit a made up word) meaning the opposite of
paranoic it is also a name, but so is apple, and netscape and
apache they can use their name in their own licences
Undefined words no place in legal documents
dave sag wrote:
Clause 4 does NOT require promition of derivatives at all. Should you
never obtain written permission, you never need endorse anything.
# 4. The names Pronoic, or pronoic.org must be used to endorse and
# promote products derived from this software before obtaining
#
the key here is the qualifying 'before obtaining written permission'
should you NEVER obtain written permission you never need endorse
anything
Huh?
How does a court of law distinguish someone who will never
obtain permission from someone who has not yet decided
to obtain permission?
At 1:47 PM -0500 5/3/02, John Cowan wrote:
dave sag wrote:
Clause 4 does NOT require promition of derivatives at all Should
you never obtain written permission, you never need endorse
anything
# 4 The names Pronoic, or pronoicorg must be used to endorse and
# promote products derived from
Hi,
I would like to discuss the place for a licence like the APOSSL among
its peers.
The APOSSL is a licence whose goal is to encourage people to consider
being pronoic; believing in that feeling that forces are conspiring
to make life better.
This is manifest in the way software is
At 2:39 PM -0500 5/3/02, Forrest J Cavalier III wrote:
the key here is the qualifying 'before obtaining written permission'
should you NEVER obtain written permission you never need endorse
anything
Huh?
How does a court of law distinguish someone who will never
obtain permission from
dave sag wrote:
* 4. The term pronoic should be used to endorse and promote products
derived
*from this software before obtaining written permission. For written
*permission, you must contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nope, still won't fly: it still says that the names should (rather
At 2:36 PM -0300 5/3/02, Rodrigo Barbosa wrote:
I agree with your interpretation.
The text states clearly that you MUST use it, unless you get permission
for not using it.
this clause has been revised to
* 4. The term pronoic should be used to endorse and promote products derived
*from
At 3:55 PM -0500 5/3/02, Matthew C Weigel wrote:
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 02:45 p, dave sag wrote:
because it puts faith in individuals and empowers them OSS is
pronoic in nature because you can simply express a need for tools
and within a
Then I don't understand the need for a
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