Re: OSD Model Code -- Article 1 (Free Distribution)

2003-01-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Good point regarding misuse since the initial confusion arose from the use of "aggregate software" in the OSD. Under Art. 1-1, I will delete footnote 3. As for Larry's revision of Art. 1 of the OSD, that seems fine with me and consistent with the original annotated version of the OSD. In removing

Re: OSD Model Code -- Article 1 (Free Distribution)

2003-01-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Mark's point re-introduces the copyright misuse issue since he is correct that there is a grey area concerning the validity of license restrictions on copyrightable collective works are concerned. Larry's proposal avoids this problem as long as it is agreeable that the OSD should not have anything

Re: OSD Model Code -- Article 1 (Free Distribution)

2003-01-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
I think Larry's point is a plausible interpretation as well, but the point is well-taken by this discussion that the current version of Art. 1 needs revision. Unless there is a very good reason to include a guideline on "aggregate software" under Art. 1 of the OSD, which covers free distribution,

Re: Model Code for the OSD

2003-01-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
You have presented arguments against the use of "deliberately obfuscated source code" as well as the reference to "well documented;" since the former appears in the current version of Art. 2 of the OSD and the latter was used as explanatory language in the model code, I can delete the latter, no pr

Re: Model Code for the OSD

2003-01-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
We are assuming that there has not been complete past compliance with some of the guidelines in the OSD; hence, this process is meant to make compliance easier by clarifying and updating the OSD. IMHO, I think we all know well-documented source code when we see it. Rod - Original Message

RE: Model Code for the OSD

2003-01-20 Thread Don Jarrell
> IMHO, I think we all know well-documented source > code when we see it. > Excuse me, but is the OSD being written for the esteemed and talented frequent posters to this list or as a guideline for a wider audience ? Cheers. dj -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ez

Re: Red Hat CCMPL and exclusive for-pay maintenance releases

2003-01-20 Thread Florian M Unterkircher
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:48:16PM -0500, Howard Jacobson wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean by "abusing code." Since all of our CCM code > is copyrighted by Red Hat and owned by us, I'm not sure how we could be > abusing anyone else's rights. If that were strictly true and the entire code was

Red Hat CCMPL and exclusive for-pay maintenance releases

2003-01-20 Thread Florian M Unterkircher
Mr Jacobson, First, it wouldn't be the first time a company possibly abusing code developed under an OSS-like license would have to change their practices (think NVidia, Sigma Designs, etc.). I would like to suggest that you chose a BSD style license and don't acquire tainted assets from comp

off-topic: technology-related opensource forums?

2003-01-20 Thread reggiehg
Sorry for the off-topic, but does anyone know of technology-related opensource forums? Specifically, I'm interested in the issue of the feasibility of proving that some executable was derivative of some "open source" source. Regards, Reggie Guevara __

Specific Scenario: App A, API B, & Library C

2003-01-20 Thread reggiehg
Can I get your comments on a specific scenario: App A, based on API B, "aggregated" w/ Library C, also based on API B, wherein "aggregated" means App A is totally independent of Library C except via API B, and it is only the end-user who explicitly references Library C via "configuring" App A. Th

Re: Specific Scenario: App A, API B, & Library C

2003-01-20 Thread Ihab Awad
Hi Reggie, I have been thinking of posting your *exact* message for a week or two now; thank you for doing so, and in such clear terms. On Monday 20 January 2003 13:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > b) end-user - App A, API B, and Library C. By > explicitly configuring Library C into App A, the > e

Re: [redhat-ccm-list] Re: Red Hat CCMPL and exclusive for-paymaintenance releases

2003-01-20 Thread Jun Yamog
Hi Florian, I would like to give my opinion as an outsider from Red Hat. I believe what you have said maybe correct / legally right (not sure, I am developer). But from a business sense I think Red Hat may not yet be able to give the latest and greatest source. Due to the fact in my opinion th