Re: [License-discuss] license for code used for scientific results?

2012-04-30 Thread Bruce Perens
On 04/30/2012 08:36 AM, Kevin Hunter wrote: I'm not looking for responses along the lines of you can't enforce it so ignore it. I'm very specifically focused on the licensing aspect. Hi Kevin, People who understand what they're doing won't generally write a license that can't be enforced

Re: [License-discuss] license for code used for scientific results?

2012-04-30 Thread Tzeng, Nigel H.
You probably have already done this but I suggest seeing if the ScienceCommons and NeuroCommons projects offers something to your liking. http://neurocommons.org/page/Main_Page http://creativecommons.org/science It would be highly useful to have a single set of licenses to cover data, software

Re: [License-discuss] license for code used for scientific results?

2012-04-30 Thread Bruce Perens
On 04/30/2012 10:13 AM, John Cowan wrote: Conditional copyright licenses are most closely analogous to conditional licenses to enter land :-) Well, this is more than a bit of a stretch, but I can argue it this way if you like. Of course, in civil law land, licenses are contracts, period.

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX License List v1.14 OSI questions

2012-04-30 Thread John Cowan
Karl Fogel scripsit: I can find no record of approval of the Academic Free License prior to 3.0. As of 2006-10-31, we were linking to /licenses/afl-3.0.php, and now of course we link to http://opensource.org/licenses/AFL-3.0. http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://opensource.org/licenses/*

Re: [License-discuss] license for code used for scientific results?

2012-04-30 Thread Bruce Perens
Kevin, If you want to make everything fit in the framework of Free Software, you can get a lawyer for free through the Software Freedom Conservancy, and there is a well-established history of them going to court for their clients. But you have to fit in their parameters of Free Software.

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX License List v1.14 OSI questions

2012-04-30 Thread Lawrence Rosen
I can find no record of approval of the Academic Free License prior to 3.0. As of 2006-10-31, we were linking to /licenses/afl-3.0.php, and now of course we link to http://opensource.org/licenses/AFL-3.0. http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://opensource.org/licenses/* is your friend.

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX License List v1.14 OSI questions

2012-04-30 Thread Karl Fogel
John, wow. Thank you so much for that incredibly helpful mail. I'm not going to have time to incorporate all this information into our site between now and the next OSI board meeting (this Wednesday), but knowing this is in the archives makes some upcoming tasks much less daunting! -K John

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX License List v1.14 OSI questions

2012-04-30 Thread Karl Fogel
Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com writes: Indeed, my internal wayback machine can assure you that all were approved by the OSI board. Heh, good to have that confirmation. I previously requested that the earlier versions of those licenses be deprecated. There is probably still software in the

Re: [License-discuss] Excavating the past [Was: Re: SPDX License List v1.14 OSI questions]

2012-04-30 Thread Karl Fogel
Michael Bernstein mich...@fandomhome.com writes: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Cowan co...@mercury.ccil.org wrote: Karl Fogel scripsit: I can find no record of approval of the Academic Free License prior to 3.0.  As of 2006-10-31, we were linking to /licenses/afl-3.0.php, and now of