Re: Free Software Licensing Strategy -- Some guidelines

2001-01-17 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. Karsten, you've done an excellent job with this. There is one point that I'd like to make which might be worth adding, as it's a common misconception. On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:11:24AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Artistic License is notable for its use with the Perl

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-17 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:17:41AM -0800, Frank LaMonica wrote: I like the terminology you used: "source included software (SIS)". SIS would be much better than a closed source, proprietary alternative, but I don't see any incentive for open source programmers to contribute to

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-17 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:48:44PM -0800, Frank LaMonica wrote: Please clarify or expand on that statement. The issue under discussion was what incentive would hackers have for contributing to a product released under a Source Included Software scheme that was not Open Source such

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-17 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:34:49AM +, SamBC wrote: The OSD requires that licenses do not discriminate against a group of people - it may be pushing it, but this license discriminates against those unable (or at an even greater push, unwilling) to pay a license fee. That _is_

Re: AFPL vs. GPL-like licenses?

2001-01-15 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. Robert Feldt wrote: What are the implications of using AFPL versus using GPL? As another said, the key is to determine what your goals are, however I suspect that you already knew that. You appear to have implied that the good will of the community is a possible determining

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-15 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 07:55:22PM -0800, Frank LaMonica wrote: If you read the rest of my posting, you would see that I continued on by saying the people on this list are exceptions - they do care about the source code. Unfortunately, we are the extreme minority. I did read

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-15 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:51:27PM -0800, Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: Economic arguments in support of open source should be carefully reasoned. I'm not an economist, I don't pretend to be an economist and I am not qualified to make economic arguments. I'm merely stating some of the

Re: Qt/Embedded

2000-11-19 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Saturday 18 November 2000 04:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're aquainted with how a linker works? [...] On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 10:49:11AM -0800, David Johnson wrote: For a few linkers, maybe. For others no. [...] If I may ask a meta-question here... This question has

Re: Apache v. GPL

2000-04-11 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. W. Yip writes: Then again, how does an advertisement clause such as the above amount to incompatibility with GPL? On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 09:13:21AM -0700, Seth David Schoen wrote: The GPL requires people relying on its permissions to grant the same permissions to others in

Licensing and public performance

2000-04-03 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. I'm co-writing some software that is only really useful in a certain media industry which doesn't have a history of being very "open" with their source. If it is used within the industry, it will very likely be internally modified by media producers and used to produce works, and the

Re: Licensing and public performance

2000-04-03 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 05:53:20PM -0700, Seth David Schoen wrote: There have been some rumors that version 3 of the GNU GPL may require disclosure of source code in some cases of public performance. I have also heard these rumours. I believe that this is intended to deal with

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-03-29 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 12:11:20AM +0100, W. Yip wrote: Fellas, this seems to be the type of dispute we have been waiting for. Is it too late to grab a copy of cphack now? Will I or won't I be able to join the inevitable class action for breach of contract against M if they _do_

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-03 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 10:45:47AM -0500, John Cowan wrote: This is offered in the spirit of "How To Make Atomic Bombs", and does *not* mean that the author approves of the conduct described herein. [deletia] Now who has violated Trent's copyright? Not Alice: she did not modify

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Michael Stutz wrote: Is it *possible* for a license to be compatible with another? Offhand I can think of just two possibilities for the GPL: the LGPL, and code that has no license and is in the public domain. On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:35:57PM -0500,

Re: Standard interfaces

1999-11-10 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 05:41:42PM -0500, Alex Nicolaou wrote: I think you missed my point. I'm not saying standards are good or bad, or that de facto standards are right or wrong. I'm saying that the fact that people defend standards generated by competition in the market place

Re: Standard interfaces

1999-11-09 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:18:29 -0500, John Cowan wrote: [no modification allowed in the context of language bindings in standards] Is Java code that binds such standard interfaces inherently unfree? On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 06:12:45PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: Such a

Re: OpenDesk.com License Proposal

1999-11-07 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 02:17:47AM +0100, Philipp Gühring wrote: 2) Commercial Use for Private Installations (e.g. installing OpenDesk on an Intranet) a) Modifications to Covered Code must be released under this license. The GPL does that. No it doesn't. If you install a

Re: Accusations, accusations, always accusations

1999-10-24 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. Quoting Andrew J Bromage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Even though I find this debate rather off-topic and would love to get back to licence discussion, I'd be interested in seeing a true line count of the source for some standard Linux system (say, Debian with only the compulsory

Re: Accusations, accusations, always accusations

1999-10-23 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. Disclaimer: I'm not on anyone's side in this debate. I just noticed quite a few factual errors in this post. I'm also not a Linux worshipper, and definitely think the Hurd has more promise as far as operating systems go. Now read on... On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 01:38:35PM -0500,

Re: Does a GPL API infect its apps?

1999-10-20 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 02:08:20PM -0400, Raymond Luk wrote: Web have a Web application framework which is open source (www.smartworker.org). It is currently using a BSD-style license but we want to change to GPL. It is essentially a set of mod_perl classes. If you're using

Re: GNU License for Hardware

1999-10-14 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:46:16PM -0400, Matthew C. Weigel wrote: Whereas Linux (the kernel) *is* free, and is considered part of the GNU system. I like the acronym expansion of GNU/Linux: GNU's Not Unix/Linux Since Linux is in fact a re-implementation of Unix, it's

Re: How about license-review@opensource.org?

1999-09-20 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 07:24:10PM -0700, Derek J. Balling wrote: I would vote for creating a new list, license-review, which is clear on what it is for, and leave the discussions here, where they seem to match the list name. As a matter of interest, was my question (i.e. "here

LPF email address

1999-09-18 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. I thought I'd ask the LPF about the copyright API problem, but the email address appears not to work (after a week of retrying). Someone on this list may have an email address which works, since there must be some overlap between the two interest groups. :-) The address that I have