For Approval: Lucent Public License Version 1.02

2004-02-13 Thread David Presotto
I sent the following in the past (see the Sept 2003 archive) and never really got a reply. I figured I'ld try again with a slightly reformated message. = Section 1 - The Lucent Public License version 1.0 was approved in 2003. Since then we've been using it to

Re: Why?

2003-12-29 Thread David Presotto
I can answer it for the Lucent public license at least. We write code for a living and would like to share as much of it as possible with the outside, both because it makes us feel good and because it increases the number of people making it better. For that copy-center or copy-left would work.

Re: Why?

2003-12-29 Thread David Presotto
If you say so. I understand that for the patent infringement (see lower and above), but for damages, I think it is weird. I would expect the party that made money of it to get sued, and possibly convicted, but not the original authors that put the thing in the public domain. Actually, that

Re: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-08 Thread David Presotto
Perhaps we should have OSD #5.1 All licenses must be politically correct. They must contain nothing that might offend or incense anyone. We would have to exempt all currently accepted licenses since an inheritive clause (or prohibition or lack of one) might incense people or

RE: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-08 Thread David Presotto
Proponents of open source software insist that software not be a battleground on which political or philosophical or business wars are waged. To a certain extent, an inheritive clause or prohibition against combination with one is a political battleground. The GPL is indeed a soldier in a

RE: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-08 Thread David Presotto
I never said that the GPL doesn't promote software freedom. Where did that come from? Nevertheless, it is a political statement (or at least a philosophical one) as it is an attempt to influence people into a different behaviour; a stronger statement than the mere promotion of open source.

Re: Framework Licensing for Developer Flexibility

2003-10-07 Thread David Presotto
The LPL lets you redistribute with GPL if you want. You would have to keep the copyright. Also, the distributor agrees to indemnify the contributors against suits due to his actions, which might scare some people off. Distributing separately with both the LPL and the GPL is also possible. Our

Re: please discuss EU DataGrid

2003-10-01 Thread david presotto
I can't see that it does anything in violation of the OSD. I like it better than my own in fact. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to get our lawyers to allow anything without an indemnity clause, termination clause, ... In general, I don't like to see in such documents URL's or email addresses

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-29 Thread David Presotto
On Mon Sep 29 17:20:36 EDT 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside, it might have been less inflamatory if the license has said ``if source of the program and any derivatives is distributed under an inheritive license (e.g. GPL), it must ALSO be distributed under this license.'' Then

For Approval: Lucent Public License Version 1.02

2003-09-25 Thread David Presotto
Section 1 - The Lucent Public License version 1.0 was approved earlier this year. Since then we've been using it to distribute Plan 9. As a result we've gotten feedback from our users, IBM's council David Shofi (a CPL person), and our own lawyers. Their comments have led us to make some

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread David Presotto
On Thu Sep 25 15:52:09 EDT 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that if I take BSD code, and link it with GPL code, and distribute the result, the recipient is permitted to extract the BSD code and make a proprietary fork of that. So the BSD license always does permit proprietary forks of the

Re: Corba interfaces and GPL freedom

2003-09-14 Thread David Presotto
On Sun Sep 14 01:54:35 EDT 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an example of Corba 'serverizing': A GPL application is modified by a vendor of non-free software, who adds a Corba server API to the application. The vendor releases the source code to the GPL application and modifications

Re: Fwd: Re: Updated license - please comment

2003-06-22 Thread David Presotto
On Sun Jun 22 15:40:06 EDT 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...I haven't seen this message appear on the list; resend... ] Mark Rafn wrote: It may not be pertinent to the licensor's need. I very much hope it is pertinent to OSI's need to restrict use of it's service mark only to