RE: Interesting Microsoft license clause re open source

2001-06-25 Thread Lou Grinzo
D]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:54 PM To: 'Lou Grinzo'; 'John Cowan' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Interesting Microsoft license clause re open source > -Original Message- > From: Lou Grinzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > But the more impor

RE: Interesting Microsoft license clause re open source

2001-06-25 Thread Lou Grinzo
Thanks, guys. I didn't mean to get off on a tangent with the pancakes and blue socks thing. But the more important issues, I think, is what's up with MS and this "in conjunction with" phrasing. I can't believe that MS's lawyers don't realize how vague that statement is, which makes it sound sus

RE: Interesting Microsoft license clause re open source

2001-06-25 Thread Lou Grinzo
This is bordering on the bizarre, IMO. I bet the lawyers will have a field day deciding what "in conjunction with" means. (On the same disk? Dynamically linked? Statically linked? In the same archive, even if it's unrelated software? From the same ftp directory?) In more general terms I'm al

RE: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent

2001-03-30 Thread Lou Grinzo
When you get it, pls. post the information to the list, if you can do so legally and without ruffling too many feathers. Should make for some interesting reading. Take care, Lou -Original Message- From: Laura Majerus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:41 PM To:

RE: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent

2001-03-29 Thread Lou Grinzo
29, 2001 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent Lou Grinzo wrote: > I've contended for a long time that the primary problem with open/free > licenses is that they're not specific enough. My experience (as a lawyer) with open/free licen

RE: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent

2001-03-29 Thread Lou Grinzo
Original Message- From: Ian Lance Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent "Lou Grinzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My solution is for some group of people (like us) to

RE: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent

2001-03-29 Thread Lou Grinzo
I'm sure I'm going to get beat up for suggesting this (as happens every time I offer the idea, it seems), but what the heck... I've contended for a long time that the primary problem with open/free licenses is that they're not specific enough. Look at this conversation thread that's been running

RE: IPL as a burden

2001-01-23 Thread Lou Grinzo
company in question. Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com -- Angelo Schneider write: Manfred Schmid wrote: > Hi all! [...] > > "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. > Our General Public Licen

RE: The Toll Roads of Open Source

2001-01-23 Thread Lou Grinzo
7;re losing our perspective. It's time for everyone involved to take a deep breath, step back from the keyboard, and think about something non-work related for a few minutes. Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com -Original Message- From: dan [mailto:dan]On Behalf Of Dan H

RE: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-21 Thread Lou Grinzo
;m drifting off topic here. If this is OSI's stance on this licensing issue, then it's their decision and I respect it. I'll shut up now, and go back to waiting for the license I submitted (Open Compatibility License) to be discussed. Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com

RE: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-20 Thread Lou Grinzo
license to the entity that holds the copyright to the material, unless specifically asked for advice. Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com

Free beer, free speech, etc.

2001-01-18 Thread Lou Grinzo
at you'd even call something like this. (Although "Sun Community License" leaps to mind... ) Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com

RE: OSI compliance requiring software to be "free beer"?

2001-01-18 Thread Lou Grinzo
ftware. And no, I don't have a solution to this situation, either, or I'd be an absurdly rich man, as Russell suggested. Take care, Lou Grinzo Editor, LinuxProgramming.com -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:30

RE: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Lou Grinzo
This latest exchange points out one of the most troubling aspects of software licensing--even many of the people who care about such issues and closely read the licenses can't always agree on exactly what is and isn't allowed. In this case, I think it would help everyone a great deal if the FSF