begin Greg London quotation:
The difference is APSL does not give you the option
of limiting source code to people to whom you give
your distributions. OSD allows source code to be
contained within a circle of friends.
That is exactly it. Thank you for clarifying the matter. I was very
with rhetoric, when that was failing. The European lawyer
(representing some CD-ROM-oriented firm?) was particularly cheeky about
that, you may recall.
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There's nothing in the OSD which talks about privacy
You are of course quite correct in this; I had forgotten. And it is
disposative of the issue, unless the OSD were changed.
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, in any
of the submitted-but-not-yet-approved licences. Frankly, I've not
noticed anything innovative and useful.
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examples of them. Too bad that requires _work_ on your part,
when gratuitously complaining about other people is undoubtedly a great
deal easier.
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in a private email.
I agree with Russ's statement, you disagree with it, and -- to complete
a misshapen circle -- you claim he agrees with you. What's the
expression? Do the math.
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Refund duly tendered.
(My personal views; yours for a modest clickwrap licence fee and waiver
of reverse-engineering rights.)
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I hate to be the constant crank, but...
Aha! A true spiritual heir of Baron Munchausen has been found, at last.
Tell us another one, Matthew.
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. for its GPLed codebase.
I'm sure I'll find one or two that seem sound, if I look around.
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(and the mechanics of dealing with copyright assignment) are
addressed, in some detail, in FSF's Information for Maintainers of GNU
Software, http://www.fsf.org/prep/maintain_toc.html . 'Hope that helps!
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specific, but I'm rushed, again.)
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of law,
whether FSF claims it exists or not.)
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are
involved.
More about the project's licensing, here:
http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/main_faq_new.html
The 6.0 codebase is, at this date, pretty alpha-ish. But it's usable if
you're... very adventuresome.
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intent. Which
suggests room for improvement.
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thus far written an open-source implementation of the algorithm.
Not relevant to the preceding discussion, but I thought it was an
interesting case study.
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begin Jordan Logos Greenhall quotation:
So, would a world powered by Linux be worse-off than a world powered by
Windows?
http://www.perlguy.net/images/opensource1.gif
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endum file,
and then distribute like mad.
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et make.
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, your company talking about "threats" is just yet another
tiresome digression. Either finally deal with the OSD, or pester some
other list, please. By and large, we're busy people.
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(modulo some reported
weakness in handling graphics), but reportedly has poor desktop-OS
software support.
These issues may become clearer if/when I try to prototype a site.
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nline FAQs and other documentation. (I haven't examined the
copyright notices on LaTeX's source packages.)
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is made to work atop "any standard
TeX system (or whatever replaces it)".
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a serious public-relations problem.
For it is _very_ obvious that, in fact, you do not intend to produce
open-source software, and never did. Good luck to you.
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community a great deal of work contradicting your firm's assertions to
the contrary at every turn, and save your firm a public-relations
problem.
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for around 4 years now (we only have Linux
products), that is why we try to start this discussion here. But the
immediate response was more than hostile.
Ignore any hostility. Deal with the OSD.
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rovided with the
affected code.
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ted code in the first place.
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begin John Cowan quotation:
Rick Moen wrote:
Well, that's not the whole truth either. I could take a bunch of
BSD modules, create a derivative work, and license the result under
the GPL. Or under a proprietary license, for that matter.
No, not exactly (unless you _own
I wrote:
In 3b, Bob takes from X your new version of Alice's BSD codebase, and
^
maybe sends you a thank-you note.
Should be "3c".
rather W.S. Gilbert sort of intellectual property,
methinks. Not that it doesn't happen; just that it's rather silly.
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cence terms interact.
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s is documented only in a long-ago thread on the Linux kernel mailing
list. Anyone have a reference?
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a mailing list.
But, no licence means unlicenced: If anyone truly wishes some clear
and unambiguous permission to use that code, it will, as you say, be
necessary to contact the copyright holder(s).
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Rick
agree. I've not yet found a licence I consider reasonable for
those purposes.
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examples of businesses making money from free
software (e.g. Cygnus Solutions, Signum, Prosa)
I believe you misspelled "Red Hat, Signum, Linuxcare". ;-
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was speaking of the combined work's
licence.
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rs them.
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Angelo Schneider wrote:
Making "non authorized copies" is slavery!
Wow! 85 lines of question-begging. I believe that's a new record.
Don, what prize do we have for today's contestant?
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readily to mind.
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firm's lawyers.
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begin John Cowan quotation:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Rick Moen wrote:
As Brian Behlendorf pointed out, this list is concerned with
OSD-compliance, not with anyone's definition of free software.
All things being equal, I think the community prefers (and should
prefer) to see licenses
But many
have.)
Reply-to has been set, since meta-discussions can be pernicious.
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Rick Moen"No, you open your present"
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mapping makes it
look more robust than it is (ok, I'm reaching here, but you get the
point :) and it breaks...
I'm glad at least _one_ person understood the main point I posted
earlier. ;-
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begin Derek J. Balling quotation:
Hope... trust... same thing
Judges... courts... same thing
Read what I said more attentively, or don't. But in either case, don't
waste more of my time.
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ntative. Regardless of which applies, I don't think further
comment is warranted.
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rick (at) linuxmafia.com Kaczinski Christmas.
r round.
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one cannot absolutely prevent courts from doing perverse things,
only discourage it.
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rick (at) linuxmafia.com Kaczinski Christmas.
plete lack of payment make assignment of liability to
the copyright-holder inequitable.
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software licences purport to be a transfer of
copyright, not a contract.
You're the guy whose name has those initials trailing after it; what are
we missing, here? ;-
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) to see what proportion of code
is in fact GNU software.
Runs the risk of accidentally assuming that each line of code is equally
significant.
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to be less than very clear on the distinction
between GPLed software and GNU software. The GNU packages are listed at
http://www.fsf.org/software/software.html
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,
to me) to be treating it as GPL == GNU. I was merely pointing
this out.
My apologies. That would indeed be a problem, if so.
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them, ask and I'll e-mail them directly to
you.
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