Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Chris Travers
Wrapped up in this discussion are basically two questions: 1. Am I legally required to distribute the source of my application in these cases? This is a complex, fact-bound question and there is no substitute for asking a lawyer what is required and what the potential legal consequences enforced

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Ben Tilly
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM, John Cowan wrote: > MURAKAMI, Keiko scripsit: > >> Our application are made by Java, so these are not tightly linked GPL >> libraries, because GPL libraries are located in another directory, >> are referred or dynamic liked at live time. > > It is disputed whether

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread John Cowan
MURAKAMI, Keiko scripsit: > Our application are made by Java, so these are not tightly linked GPL > libraries, because GPL libraries are located in another directory, > are referred or dynamic liked at live time. It is disputed whether that matters or not. I tend to think not. > And we never de

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Grahame Grieve (grah...@healthintersections.com.au): > hi Rick > > Everything you say is true, but asking FSF was way cheaper than asking a > judge in a court of law ;-) > I don't have enough money and interest - that's what open source is about, > right? Well, speaking as someone who ha

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Grahame Grieve
hi Rick Everything you say is true, but asking FSF was way cheaper than asking a judge in a court of law ;-) I don't have enough money and interest - that's what open source is about, right? Grahame On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Grahame Grieve (grah...@healthint

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Grahame Grieve (grah...@healthintersections.com.au): > About Java and GPL: > http://www.healthintersections.com.au/?p=1225 Meaning no disrepect to FSF, but asking them the legal application of GPL v 3 to a specific situation commits a depressingly common category error. (1) In the ge

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread Grahame Grieve
not give every source code to users. > > Keiko > > -Original Message- > From: license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org > [mailto:license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org] On Behalf Of Kuno Woudt > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:04 PM > To: license-discuss@opensource.org &

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-15 Thread MURAKAMI, Keiko
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:04 PM To: license-discuss@opensource.org Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL? On 12-05-13 08:08, MURAKAMI, Keiko wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We've been developing an application on Eclipse Framework with

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-13 Thread Kuno Woudt
On 12-05-13 08:08, MURAKAMI, Keiko wrote: Hi everyone, We've been developing an application on Eclipse Framework with libararies covered under LGPL, GPL and Apache licenses. These libraries are jxl.jar(LGPL), servlet-api.jar(GPL v2) and stepcounter(Apache) and so on. When we deliver our applicat

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-12 Thread David Woolley
MURAKAMI, Keiko wrote: The application is not static linked. The exact point at which combining software creates a derivative work under copyright law is controversial. However, you should note that the Free Software Foundation considers dynamic linking to do so. -- David Woolley Emails

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-12 Thread David Woolley
David Woolley wrote: (Some recent licences have taken the position that this is a loophole and have tried to close it.) The GNU Affero General Public Licence, is an example of a licence that attempts to do this. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses

Re: [License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-12 Thread David Woolley
MURAKAMI, Keiko wrote: When we deliver our application just as Web application, by using but not If you deliver the actual application, then all the licences apply. If you only deliver a service, many licences don't impose restrictions, however, you should carefully read all the licenses and

[License-discuss] Is Web application including GPL libraries covered under GPL?

2013-05-12 Thread MURAKAMI, Keiko
Hi everyone, We've been developing an application on Eclipse Framework with libararies covered under LGPL, GPL and Apache licenses. These libraries are jxl.jar(LGPL), servlet-api.jar(GPL v2) and stepcounter(Apache) and so on. When we deliver our application just as Web application, by using but no