Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-13 Thread Richard Eckart de Castilho
First: I am not a lawyer just an interested bystander with an opinion and a problem to keep his mouth shut. So Rapid applications are basically complex configuration files. Let's say you create a specification for this type configuration files and Rapid is the reference implementation. Let's

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-12 Thread Gareth Edwards
Hey many thanks Max, This is all really helpful - as you can imagine I'm trying to understand this as fully as I can... Over on my Reddit post (http://redd.it/39gpcy) there's a reply that as Rapid is a server platform it doesn't get distributed like a typical desktop application so GPLv3

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-12 Thread gareth.edwa...@rapid-is.co.uk
-is.co.uk Subject: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source? Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 20:47 Maximilian scripsit: Regarding point one, the GPLv3 doesn't allow for this. If it did, for example, documents made with LibreOffice would themselves be licensed under the GPLv3

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-12 Thread Lawrence Rosen
depends on what the Program does. :-) Sorry, no help with your question here. /Larry From: Gareth Edwards [mailto:gareth.edwa...@rapid-is.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:34 AM To: license-discuss@opensource.org Subject: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-12 Thread cowan
Gareth Edwards scripsit: And this is where Rapid apps get tricky. The debate (I think) is can a Rapid app exist, like my essay, independently of the Rapid platform used to make it? (like FileZilla can exist outside of the mysys compiler) And the answer is, no it can't. The critical question

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/06/15 20:53, Gareth Edwards wrote: Over on my Reddit post (http://redd.it/39gpcy) there's a reply that as Rapid is a server platform it doesn't get distributed like a typical desktop application so GPLv3 doesn't apply, and AGPLv3 should be used instead. Well, it depends what you want to

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread Cinly Ooi
If you choose GPLv3, then anyone down stream are required to use GPLv3. That's the requirement of the license. However, in general, using open source does not mean your program will have to be open source. You are, however, constrained by the license of the open source software you choose to use,

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread Maximilian
On 10/06/2015 12:33, Gareth Edwards wrote: The big thing everyone wants to know (and no-one seems to be able to answer), is are the apps made with Rapid also Open Source, i.e. are app creators obliged to share the code and files for apps they've made using Rapid with the rest of the Rapid

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread cowan
Maximilian scripsit: Regarding point one, the GPLv3 doesn't allow for this. If it did, for example, documents made with LibreOffice would themselves be licensed under the GPLv3. Technically I think it would be possible for such a licence to still be compatible with the Open Source Definition,

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/06/15 11:44, Cinly Ooi wrote: If you choose GPLv3, then anyone down stream are required to use GPLv3. That's the requirement of the license. However, in general, using open source does not mean your program will have to be open source. That depends on what the program does, as the

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread Cinly Ooi
Dear Gerv You are right. I did assume the output of the program Rapid is code for the app and the output code is GPL-ed. Sorry for not making it clear. Best Regards, Cinly * Don't bother with footer please. I don't read them and will not be bounded by them. It cannot be enforced legally

Re: [License-discuss] Is what's made with Open Source, Open Source?

2015-06-11 Thread Maximilian
On 11/06/2015 20:47, co...@ccil.org wrote: I think it would require that the recipient explicitly accept the license as a requirement to getting LibreOffice (or whatever), which would make it not Open Source. Possibly, and I would have thought that it would require more than a mere copyright