[License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Bruce Perens
On 03/01/2012 11:57 PM, Chris Travers wrote: Ok, so part of avoiding lawsuits is to avoid areas where folks think they can sue about. Not quite, because neophytes think they can sue about anything. Sometimes lawyers cooperate in this, because they think the victim will settle or otherwise

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Bruce Perens
On 03/02/2012 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: On the other hand, a fully-written pleading for a Rule 11 sanction is beyond the means of someone who cannot afford a competent attorney. Since Olson was a Free Software developer, EFF provided his attorney pro-bono. Thanks Bruce attachment:

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Tzeng, Nigel H.
On 3/2/12 1:38 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: There seem to be three general approaches to failing to address the important matter of how to deal with the needs of independent open source software developers: 1. It's easy! All you need is the ability to fall back on a lawyer's help.

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:17:49AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: On 03/02/2012 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: On the other hand, a fully-written pleading for a Rule 11 sanction is beyond the means of someone who cannot afford a competent attorney. Since Olson was a Free Software developer, EFF

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Bruce Perens
On 03/02/2012 11:34 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Something tells me it is not reasonable to just always expect that writing open source code guarantees the EFF's help. Sure. But folks who have asked me for help got me free, and I've sometimes found them an attorney too. This is something I would

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:43:41AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: On 03/02/2012 11:34 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Something tells me it is not reasonable to just always expect that writing open source code guarantees the EFF's help. Sure. But folks who have asked me for help got me free, and I've

Re: [License-discuss] combining GPL and proprietary software - was: CC withdrawl of CC0 from OSI process

2012-03-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 02:29:28PM -0500, Tzeng, Nigel H. wrote: On 3/2/12 1:38 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: There seem to be three general approaches to failing to address the important matter of how to deal with the needs of independent open source software developers: 1.