Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-07 Thread SamBC
- Original Message - From: "Russell Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Johnson writes: "No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor". The license could possibly be construed as discriminating against fields of endeavor. The APSL places restrictions upon commercial usage that it

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-06 Thread Nick Moffitt
begin Russell Nelson quotation: My own personal interpretation, disclaimernot to be confused with the entire board's interpretation/disclaimer, is that not unrelated restrictions should be allowed. [formatting mine] It's okay for an open source license to not license a company's

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread Ron Dumont
Hello, Just to clarify. The APSL 1.2 actually makes an *exception* for Private Use (as well as internal RD); i.e. Private Use is not considered a "Deployment" and therefore such use is exempt from the requirements attached to Covered Code that is Deployed. From the APSL 1.2 d

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread phil hunt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, David Johnson wrote: On Thursday April 05 2001 04:02 am, Russell Nelson wrote: Is there a pressing need or interest for private use to be disclosed? Apple wants it in there, and there's nothing in the Open Source Definition that allows us to require them to remove

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread phil hunt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, David Johnson wrote: I would definitely try to get Stallman's approval. So far, all Open Source licenses are also Free Software licenses(*). It would be sad if the APSL was the one to fall through the crack between the definitions. [...] (*) The Artistic License might

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread Ron Dumont
We are trying to encourage companies who deploy APSL software to share their modifications with the broader community. Typically, companies will adapt software to meet the broader needs of people across their organization. An example is the use of our Streaming Server software, where

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:27:38PM +0200, Toon Knapen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: David Johnson wrote: I would definitely try to get Stallman's approval. So far, all Open Source licenses are also Free Software licenses(*). It would be sad if the APSL was the one to fall through the crack

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread Nick Moffitt
begin phil hunt quotation: Two question that spring to mind: If someone is using internally a modification of APSL software, why would they want to not disclose it? Assuming that this question was not *purely* rhetorical: There are many people who are NOT on the Internet OR in

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread phil hunt
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Nick Moffitt wrote: begin phil hunt quotation: Two question that spring to mind: If someone is using internally a modification of APSL software, why would they want to not disclose it? Assuming that this question was not *purely* rhetorical: Not at all.

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread phil hunt
I wrote: Two question that spring to mind: If someone is using internally a modification of APSL software, why would they want to not disclose it? If someone is using internally a modification of APSL software, why would Apple mind them not disclosing it? On Thu, 5 Apr

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday April 05 2001 05:20 pm, Ron Dumont wrote: Hello, Just to clarify. The APSL 1.2 actually makes an *exception* for Private Use (as well as internal RD); i.e. Private Use is not considered a "Deployment" and therefore such use is exempt from the requirements attached

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday April 05 2001 12:03 pm, phil hunt wrote: If someone is using internally a modification of APSL software, why would they want to not disclose it? Two reasons spring to mind. 1) the modifications may contain proprietary information, trade secrets, and internal matters that are

APSL 1.2

2001-04-04 Thread Russell Nelson
Please review the APSL 1.2. It's at http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ . We're aware that Richard Stallman believes that a free software license should not require disclosure of private use; no need to tell us of that. -- -russ nelson will be speaking at http://www.osdn.com/conferences

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-04 Thread John Cowan
Russell Nelson scripsit: Please review the APSL 1.2. It's at http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ . Looks open-source to me. As is well known, IANAL. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-04 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday April 05 2001 02:39 am, Russell Nelson wrote: Please review the APSL 1.2. It's at http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ . We're aware that Richard Stallman believes that a free software license should not require disclosure of private use; no need to tell us of that. I would

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-04 Thread Russell Nelson
David Johnson writes: I would definitely try to get Stallman's approval. We did. Stallman is not a monomaniac. Some things are more important to him than the amount of freely copyable software. One of these is the freedom not to disclose things you have done privately. Is there a

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-04 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday April 05 2001 04:02 am, Russell Nelson wrote: Is there a pressing need or interest for private use to be disclosed? Apple wants it in there, and there's nothing in the Open Source Definition that allows us to require them to remove it. cynicism Apple sues Mom-and-Pop Shop for