Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread jcowan
Russell McOrmond scripsit: > > > If NASA has the ability to apply a license in a foreign country to a > > > works that is in the public domain in the USA, then does not any other US > > > citizen have the ability to apply a license as well? If these other US > > > citizens do not, then does NAS

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread Russell McOrmond
Lets continue down this line of thinking... (just trying to understand the logic people have presented...) On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Russell McOrmond scripsit: > > > If NASA has the ability to apply a license in a foreign country to a > > works that is in the public do

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread jcowan
Russell McOrmond scripsit: > If NASA has the ability to apply a license in a foreign country to a > works that is in the public domain in the USA, then does not any other US > citizen have the ability to apply a license as well? If these other US > citizens do not, then does NASA? Why, because

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread Rod Dixon
I do not have an answer to the specific question, but I suspect the answer may reside in a treaty or an international agreement that is not a treaty. The Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA), for instance, allows works in the public domain in the U.S. to be scooped out of the public domain retroacti

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread Russell McOrmond
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > I don't think it is legal in the USA to apply your own license to > a public domain work. How can you license something to which you > do not have a copyright? This is just some of the odd things we end up if we play the word game we were being l

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread jcowan
Russell McOrmond scripsit: > It appears that with US government created works that every US > citizen has the right to apply licenses to the work, Not so. See my other posting. > Given that term expiry is not the only way for a work to > enter the public domain, and term expiry can be differen

Re: International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Russell McOrmond wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Russell Nelson wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > So Americans can ignore the civil-servant version of the NOSA license with > > > impunity, but not so Australians. [This was in response to my quoting from the Berne Convention to show that co

International treatment of the public domain

2004-02-17 Thread Russell McOrmond
I believe that the OSI is not USA only, so I hope this question does receive some discussion. On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Russell Nelson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So Americans can ignore the civil-servant version of the NOSA license with > > impunity, but not so Australians. > > Inter