I hadn't seen mention of this here before (although I might have missed it). Richard (I know you're out there) will be HAPPY to know that the Free Software / Open Source mentality is spreading to other completely unrelated industries. Dungeons and Dragons will be "open source" of a sort, if the designers of the Third Edition (due out this summer) have anything to say about it... http://www.rpgplanet.com/dnd3e/interview-rsd-0300.htm D ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Balling 408-530-5062 Technical Yahoo Do You Yahoo!?