Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-22 Thread David Johnson
Russell Nelson wrote: [ Please discuss this license. Is this discriminating against users in countries where warranty can be disclaimed? -russ ] If the following disclaimer of warranty and liability is not valid due to the laws in a jurisdiction then NO RIGHTS ARE GRANTED in that jurisdiction wi

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Anonymous Poster, From: David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I have concluded that the "No Warranty License" does not conform to the Open Source Definition. The offending clause is as follows: If the following disclaimer of warranty and liability is not

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Justin Chen-Wells
You have to be careful with this: o Open source developers ought to be able to limit their liability, otherwise many firms and individuals may be unwilling or unable to contribute code o You risk binding the OSD to the union of the laws of every jurisdiction on earth,

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Justin Chen-Wells, From: Nathan Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, From: Justin Chen-Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, This violates Item 5 of the OSD, which states that "The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.". By not granting equal rights to users, distributors and ope

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Justin Chen-Wells
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:05:55AM +1100, Nathan Kelley wrote: > > You have said that this "No Warranty License" fails to comply because > > it discriminates against people in a particular jurisdiction. Your > > reasoning was that the laws of that region are beyond the control of > > its inhabi

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
> Cc: "OSI License Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: discuss: No Warranty License. : : You have to be careful with this: : : o Open source developers ought to be able to limit their : liability, otherwise many f

RE: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
Right on! /Larry > -Original Message- > From: Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:42 PM > To: Justin Chen-Wells; Nathan Kelley > Cc: OSI License Discussion > Subject: Re: discuss: No Warranty License. > >

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-28 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Justin Chen-Wells, Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. and OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Justin Chen-Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, From: Nathan Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, From: Justin Chen-Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, From: Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, On the other hand supposing some g

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-28 Thread John Cowan
Nathan Kelley scripsit: > Those in the proprietary software business aren't allowed to re-use > code from any software licensed under any OSD-compliant license in > their proprietary products without conforming to the conditions of the > license, making their product nonproprietary; This is b

RE: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-28 Thread Don Jarrell
home-office Digital Thinking Inc. 972 467 6793 cell * > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:53 AM > To: Justin Chen-Wells; Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. &g

RE: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-28 Thread Rod Dixon
*** > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nathan Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:53 AM > > To: Justin Chen-Wells; Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. > > Cc: OSI License Discussion

Re: discuss: No Warranty License (round 2).

2003-03-09 Thread John Cowan
Russell Nelson scripsit: > [ please discuss this license. I assume that the submittor means to > withdraw the previous version. -russ ] I see no problems with this license. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To say that Bilbo's breath was taken aw