Re: What license to pick...

2000-10-03 Thread kmself
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 10:34:53AM +0200, Lionello Lunesu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: OK, I'll 'share' my thoughts on all of these mails. : ) Thanks for all the helpful input by the way! I appreciate it! LL So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! LL [...] LL AND

RE: What license to pick...

2000-10-03 Thread Lionello Lunesu
The end is near. LER An alternative you might consider is the Aladdin Free Public License (AFPL). I found it at: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/doc/Public.htm Thanks for the tip! It is what I've been looking for. Distribution is allowed but every change from the original Work must

RE: What license to pick...

2000-10-03 Thread John Cowan
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Lionello Lunesu wrote: But, as mentioned above, I'm very satisfied with the AFPL, and we've already decided to put our toolkit on our homepage with this license. Fair enough. This doesn't mean however that I'm not accepting suggestions and comments! Like I've said

RE: What license to pick...

2000-10-02 Thread Lionello Lunesu
OK, I'll 'share' my thoughts on all of these mails. : ) Thanks for all the helpful input by the way! I appreciate it! LL So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! LL [...] LL AND we don't want other people to be able to create their LL own distribution of the toolkit.

Re: What license to pick...

2000-10-02 Thread John Cowan
Lionello Lunesu wrote: So what am I doing here on opersource.org? I want to go "open source". I've put it between quotes since it turns out to be something different than what I thought. I want to share the source code with others. They may use the source code for learning, debugging,

RE: What license to pick...

2000-10-02 Thread David Johnson
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000, Lionello Lunesu wrote: OK, if this is the case, then I'll have to change the plans. I don't want togo open-source.. I think though that the license I'm looking for is out there, somewhere. But it looks like I'll be writing my own license agreement. Let me describe our

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-30 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: I would suggest standard admittedly simplistic definitions: 1] 'Full Use Lifetime License' = [FULL] 'unfettered use' [i.e. GPL] 2] 'Limited Use Software Enjoyment Rights License' = [LUSER License :)] typical restricted commercial type copyright 3]

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-30 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Lionello Lunesu wrote: So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! [...] AND we don't want other people to be able to create their own distribution of the toolkit. These two are inconsistant - the OSD essentially requires that others be allowed

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-30 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Lionello Lunesu wrote: Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? Not specifically, but it doesn't prevent you from separately licensing the code that you own to someone under terms other than the GPL. You *have* have the

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-30 Thread John Cowan
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: Were I to release code for the public good and access, I would resent it highly if someone assimilated it, packaged it and marketed it, and making thousands or even millions in the process. And if that were to happen, I think I would be reluctant

What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Lionello Lunesu
OK.. So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! But we haven't decided which license to use for it. GPL seems the obvious choice, but we want to restrict the freedom somehow (at least in the beginning, just so we can ge more organised). We definately want to prohibit

RE: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Dave J Woolley
From: Lionello Lunesu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] so we can ge more organised). We definately want to prohibit commercial use (I guess GPL covers this), but we also want to be notified of any changes The GPL encourages commercial use (I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that the OSI rules

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Lionello Lunesu
Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? L.

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Mark Koek
Lionello Lunesu wrote: Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? You can ask what you want. :-) But because the GPL explicitly permits free redistribution, anyone could do the same, so it would be necessary to add value in return for the

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
It is nice to see someone ask questions before they take a license and assume it does something it does not, and mis-use it. Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? That is a question that can be interpreted in a few different ways which

RE: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Dave J Woolley
From: Lionello Lunesu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? [DJW:] No. You can ask a fee for the supply of the recorded media and for support, but you cannot charge for the licence itself. You can even

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread flash gordon
At 10:09 AM 9/29/00 +0200, Lionello Lunesu wrote: OK.. So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! But we haven't decided which license to use for it. GPL seems the obvious choice, but we want to restrict the freedom somehow (at least in the beginning, just so we can ge

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: GPL does not prohibit commercialization, it protects it. Personally I think that is a major flaw in the GNU/GPL concept of 'freeware' - I think the term 'freeware' should be reserved for software that is both free of restrictions on modifications