Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-08 Thread Steve Lhomme
Quoting "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Because compiled works are less favorable for modifications. They're > not the "best form" of a work. Specifically, they're not the > "preferred > for for making modifications" to the work. Better to go with the > source > form than the compiled

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Ned Lilly
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > Because compiled works are less favorable for modifications. They're > not the "best form" of a work. Specifically, they're not the "preferred > for for making modifications" to the work. Better to go with the source > form than the compiled form, where appropriate.

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Greg London
Steve Lhomme wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg London" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Steve Lhomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: binary restriction

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread John Cowan
Steve Lhomme scripsit: > Are you sure of that ? When you compile you USE the code not MODIFY it. > There's no derivation. Yes, we're sure. Compiling code is equivalent to translating text from one language to another, and translations are a paradigm case of derived works. A derived work need

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Steve Lhomme wrote: > That makes good sense. But in this case, why is their different rules > for source code and binary versions of a work in most open-source > licenses ? I mean if it's a derived work, the rules applied are the > same one of a derived work. 1. Because binar

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Steve Lhomme
- Original Message - From: "Greg London" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Lhomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: binary restrictions? | Steve Lhomme wrote: | > | A binary is a d

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Greg London
Steve Lhomme wrote: > | A binary is a derived work. > > Are you sure of that ? When you compile > you USE the code not MODIFY it. > There's no derivation. Otherwise using > a software and changing the default > settings would be a derived work... source code is text that follows the rules of g

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Steve Lhomme
- Original Message - From: "Russell Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ned Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: Re: binary restrictions? | Ned Lilly writes: | > Is anyone aware of

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Steve Lhomme
- Original Message - From: "David Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ned Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: Re: binary restrictions? | On Tuesday 02 October 2001 09:17 pm, Ned Lilly

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-04 Thread Russell Nelson
Ned Lilly writes: > Is anyone aware of a license which permits source access and > modifications, patch contributions, but restricts the right to > distribute compiled binaries to the sponsoring organization? A binary is a derived work. An open source license has to allow distribution of bina

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
On Tuesday 02 October 2001 09:17 pm, Ned Lilly wrote: > Yeah, it kind of *is* to guarantee purchase. That is, purchase from > Foo, Inc. and no one else (if you want to purchase software in the > first place). But nothing's stopping you from getting the source > and compiling it yourself. Is th

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-02 Thread Ned Lilly
> On Tuesday 02 October 2001 03:04 pm, I wrote: > > > Is anyone aware of a license which permits source access and > > modifications, patch contributions, but restricts the right to > > distribute compiled binaries to the sponsoring organization? > > It wouldn't be Open Source. Section 2 of the OS

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-02 Thread John Cowan
Karsten M. Self scripsit: > It's not clear whether or not condition 1 implies that all > modifications and derived works must be freely distributable, The MIT and BSD licenses make no such demand. GPL != Open Source. > > Anyone could redistribute > > the "official" source (but *not* modified

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
On Tuesday 02 October 2001 03:04 pm, Ned Lilly wrote: > Is anyone aware of a license which permits source access and > modifications, patch contributions, but restricts the right to > distribute compiled binaries to the sponsoring organization? It wouldn't be Open Source. Section 2 of the OSD sa

binary restrictions?

2001-10-02 Thread Ned Lilly
Hello all, Apologies if this question has been covered before. I haven't been on this list for many months. Is anyone aware of a license which permits source access and modifications, patch contributions, but restricts the right to distribute compiled binaries to the sponsoring organization? S