[Lightning-dev] How to use LN

2018-01-18 Thread v e
Hi, I am building merchant app and consumer wallet app using https://bitcoinj.github.io APIs for wallet creation. Now I want to use LN built by your team. I am looking at this API https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning-charge and have few questions: * Do i need to run bitcoin core node? *

Re: [Lightning-dev] negative fees for HTLC relay

2018-01-18 Thread Benjamin Mord
Although lightning and cryptocurrency is new, the idea of a distribution network created from links with negotiated fees and with limited unidirectional capacity that can be corrected via rebalancing, is not new. In fact there are several very large and mature markets around the world that we can s

Re: [Lightning-dev] negative fees for HTLC relay

2018-01-18 Thread Christian Decker
Mark Friedenbach writes: > It is not the case that all instances where you might have negative > fees would have loops. If we don't have a cycle we can hardly talk about rebalancing channels. At that point you're paying for someone else's payment to go through your channel, and I'm unclear what

Re: [Lightning-dev] BOLTs and meaning of "MUST" in potentially adversarial contexts

2018-01-18 Thread 7riw77
> benefit. Use of MUST (in RFC 2119 sense) invites lazy thought in the protocol > design itself, where details need not be sold as beneficial to individuals. We > should say, there is no RFC > 2119 MUST - there is only self interest. I think you are misreading the intent behind RFC2119 a bit... T

Re: [Lightning-dev] [1.1] Proposed `funding_cancelled` message

2018-01-18 Thread 7riw77
> You impose this 25 channels per peer. I start opening a channel to > you. Because I did not check mempool or because my fee-estimation algo is > bad, I pay too low a fee. I become impatient and bump it up, which you > perceive as another open (so it is now 2/25 channels). It seems, to