Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2022 Notes & Summary/Commentary

2022-06-28 Thread Christian Decker
Olaoluwa Osuntokun writes: >> Rene Pickhardt brought up the issue of latency with regards to >> nested/recursive MuSig2 (or nested FROST for threshold) on Bitcoin >> StackExchange > > Not explicitly, but that strikes me as more of an implementation level > concern. As an example, today more nodes

Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2022 Notes & Summary/Commentary

2022-06-30 Thread Christian Decker
Matt Corallo writes: > On 6/28/22 9:05 AM, Christian Decker wrote: >> It is worth mentioning here that the LN protocol is generally not very >> latency sensitive, and from my experience can easily handle very slow >> signers (3-5 seconds delay) without causing too ma

Re: [Lightning-dev] Onion messages rate-limiting

2022-06-30 Thread Christian Decker
Thanks Bastien for writing up the proposal, it is simple but effective I think. >> One issue I see w/ the first category is that a single party can flood the >> network and cause nodes to trigger their rate limits, which then affects >> the >> usability of the onion messages for all other

Re: [Lightning-dev] Highly Available Lightning Channels

2023-02-13 Thread Christian Decker
Hi Matt, Hi Joost, let me chime in here, since we seem to be slowly reinventing all the research on reputation systems that is already out there. First of all let me say that I am personally not a fan of reputation systems in general, just to get my own biases out of the way, now on to the why

Re: [Lightning-dev] HTLC Endorsement for Jamming Mitigation

2023-05-10 Thread Christian Decker
Hi Antoine, this is an intrinsic issue with reputation systems, and the main reason I'm sceptical w.r.t. their usefulness in lightning. Fundamentally any reputation system bases their expectations for the future on experiences they made in the past, and they are thus always susceptible to sudden

Re: [Lightning-dev] HTLC Endorsement for Jamming Mitigation

2023-05-20 Thread Christian Decker
> > I'd be very interested in how many repeat interactions nodes get from > individual senders, since that also tells us how much use we can get > out of local-only reputation based systems, and I wouldn't be > surprised if, for large routing nodes, we have sufficient data for > them to make an

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