Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So the question: is it possible to use arbitrary (I mean fonts in a > format that I can buy from fontmakers) fonts in LilyPond scores or > not. If you use the PS backend, yes (at least theoretically; I haven't tested it yet). Currently only with latin-1. > My other problem is that using 2.3.2

important slur bug fixed

2004-10-24 Thread Erik Sandberg
Hi, I found an evil slur bug (slur collided with beams) today. Apparently my bug reporting now works by telepathy: While trying to isolate the bug, I did a cvs update;make, and the bug just disappeared! well done! erik ___ lilypond-devel mailing lis

Re: Very wide spacing w chords & lyrics

2004-10-24 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 25 October 2004 00.14, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The vertical spacing sets distances between Y axis groups, > > ie. horizontal lines such as Lyrics and Staff contexts. Apparently, > > this distance must be shortened when the extremes are lyrics or chord > > n

Re: LilyPond 2.3.23 released

2004-10-24 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Sunday 24 October 2004 12.45, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > On Saturday 23 October 2004 13.31, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > > 2.3.23 has bugfixes in the documentation, lilypond-book and > > > --preview output. This release can be considered as a release > > > candidate

Very wide spacing w chords & lyrics

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The vertical spacing sets distances between Y axis groups, > ie. horizontal lines such as Lyrics and Staff contexts. Apparently, > this distance must be shortened when the extremes are lyrics or chord > names. > > The workaround is to decrease betweensystemspace > > I

Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I'm trying to approach the problem from my point of view: as a user who needs latin-2 or unicode encoding with a Garamond font that is shipped with my Windows system. I'd like to use it in a book created in a DTP software and the book is to be written with Garamond, and it is needed to have the

two small outstanding manual bugs

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ > Dynamics.html > > \ppp and \pp are overwritten > \ff and \fff just look like f. > > I could artificially space out this example (adding invisible 16ths), > but IMO this bug should be fixed b

Re: other manual style issues

2004-10-24 Thread Graham Percival
On 24-Oct-04, at 6:58 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: these recommendations do make for a terse, formal and technical style of writing. It could be that we should relax these conventions a little, but maybe you could review the Chapter using these guidelines again? I agree that the recommendations make

two small outstanding manual bugs

2004-10-24 Thread Graham Percival
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ Dynamics.html \ppp and \pp are overwritten \ff and \fff just look like f. I could artificially space out this example (adding invisible 16ths), but IMO this bug should be fixed before 2.24. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2

Re: [doc-request] fret diagrams

2004-10-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 04:49, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > note that the real docs for fret diagrams should also be linked in > (they are in the Markup section) > > Links to both the real docs in the Markup section and to the markup properties were included in the notation manual. Carl __

Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Sorry if I don't understand everything but I think adding support > for OpenType fonts would be by far better than hacking with all > those TeX font stuff. Is it practically possible? This is a completely different issue. We have first to solve the problem how to access glyphs in an easy way w

Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just realized that there might be an easy answer out of the > font-encoding troubles. [...] Hopefully, we'll discuss this `in personam' soon. Whatever we find, this is something for the 2.5 series. Don't haste. > * dump all text string using glyphshow. Instead of doing > > (hi) show >

Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Sorry if I don't understand everything but I think adding support for > OpenType fonts would be by far better than hacking with all those TeX > font stuff. Is it practically possible? I am not aware of any free OpenType font that we could ship with lily. Do you know a

Re: encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Sorry if I don't understand everything but I think adding support for OpenType fonts would be by far better than hacking with all those TeX font stuff. Is it practically possible? Bert ___ lilypond-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.

other manual style issues

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ok, now that the silly gender issues have their own thread, let's > discuss real issues. I have some more style issues. The lilypond.tely files lists some guidelines for writing the docuemntation. I noticed that the new chapter on templates does not follow these recom

Re: LilyPond 2.3.23 released

2004-10-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > I thought that we had agreed that hangs/resource overuse are > out-of-scope for --safe? Yes, you're right. Is this documented? -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org

encoding hack

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
hi there, I just realized that there might be an easy answer out of the font-encoding troubles. We could use the current setup (setting encodings with \encoding), and solve the problem on the backend by a two-step process: * dump all text string using glyphshow. Instead of doing (hi) show we

Re: make web: programming error: lily-1822262335.ly

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > { c'4 \glissando c'' } > > spark:~/tmp gperciva$ lilypond -e "(ly:set-option > 'internal-type-checking #t)" foo.ly > > Now processing `foo.ly' > Parsing... > Interpreting music... [1] > Preprocessing graphical objects... > Calculating line breaks... [2] > programming

pdf doesn't make ps first

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > foo.ly: { c4 } > > Lilypond fails to create pdf, but if I create a ps first, (lilypond > --ps foo.ly), it works. Should lilypond --pdf call lilypond --ps (or > --dvi) first? > > OSX, recent CVS. fixed. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://w

Re: LilyPond 2.3.23 released

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > > >> hangs-quote-grace is still there - it's really critical. Stable programs > >> shouldn't hang. > > > > I'm not gonna fix this before 2.4. The old adage "then don't do > > that" applies here, sorry. > > In that case we must disallow \quot

Re: LilyPond 2.3.23 released

2004-10-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> hangs-quote-grace is still there - it's really critical. Stable programs >> shouldn't hang. > > I'm not gonna fix this before 2.4. The old adage "then don't do > that" applies here, sorry. In that case we must disallow \quote in --safe-mode. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuiz

[bug] [critical] lilypond --preview is broken

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > lilypond --preview doesn't crop the .ps output to a small size. I consider > this a release-critical bug; it did work in 2.2. should be fixed in .23 -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen

Very wide spacing w chords & lyrics

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > The vertical distance between staves is much much bigger if chords and lyrics > are used, even if I reduce all minimumVerticalExtents. Is this a bug or > intentional? And if it's intentional, why?? The vertical spacing sets distances between Y axis groups, ie

Re: [doc-request] fret diagrams

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 17:26, Juergen Reuter wrote: > > Hi! > > > > In input/test/fret-diagram.ly, we have a nice fret diagram, but I can not > > find any section in the manual about it (or did I miss something?). Since > > the NEWS file advertises fret diagrams for t

Re: LilyPond 2.3.23 released

2004-10-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Saturday 23 October 2004 13.31, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > 2.3.23 has bugfixes in the documentation, lilypond-book and > > --preview output. This release can be considered as a release > > candidate for LilyPond 2.4. > > > > Go and grab it at http://lilypond.org/dow