Re: new repos: do we want an archive?

2009-08-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 06:44:12PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: However, I started wondering about all the old history that would be lost when we delete web/ and (to a much lesser extent) web-gop/. I don't

Re: keyboard navigation in html docs

2009-08-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:19:42AM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/7/30 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: I think it's possibly to detect keypresses in javascript. Javascript not needed. Links can have a href=... accesskey=n title=Next [n] ... Next/a Neat! Ok, I think we

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some internals concepts. Here are examples of things that a new developer might have to ask about, or perhaps spend a long time

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion was to use xHead or crossHead for the base name with deadNote being defined to invoke the base function

Re: keyboard navigation in html docs

2009-08-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/5 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Ok, I think we have enough positive, and no negative, responses. Valentin, could add this to the tracker, so that we can lose it? So that we _can_ lose it? :-) There you go: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=825 Regards,

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Hohl
Trevor Daniels schrieb: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion was to use xHead or crossHead for the base name with deadNote being defined to

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:09 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some internals concepts. ... It would be nice to have a

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: In the meantime, we can move forward on tablature. As I see it, the current decision causes problems only if we were to change to xHead in the future and eliminate deadNote. And I see no plans in the future to eliminate

Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem with the Dot_column_engraver. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com writes: On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem with the Dot_column_engraver. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread demery
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu said: On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: In the meantime, we can move forward on tablature. As I see it, the current decision causes problems only if we were to change to xHead in the future and

is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
This question is already buried in this post: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-08/msg00154.html I'm starting a new thread to make it more visible. Is it possible to write a scheme procedure to test if a given context contains a particular engraver? Like...

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice context than in the Staff context. Good idea. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Hohl
dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us schrieb: Please dont rename the cross head, it has a name, predating any usage stemming from rock musicians jargon. That name is further 'blessed' by the unicode standard, Musical Symbol X Notehead, 1D143. I think Lilypond should propose both, the official,

conditionally eliminating lyric extender

2009-08-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, I want to [automagically] conditionally eliminate lyric extenders when (1) the end of the syllable which has the extender is after [i.e., to the right of] the melisma's last note; and, (2) the distance to the following syllable is less than the minimum extender length

Examples (for the web site and complete scores) status

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
The new directory Documentation/examples that was proposed to host examples for the web site plays a duplicate role of input/ and input/mutopia. What about cleaning up these two directories (that is, deleting unused input files and cleaning up makefiles) and use input/ instead of creating a new

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice context than in the Staff context. Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation accordingly

New web site moved to master

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
The web site in Texinfo is on master now, except the examples (see my other email). All of what I could think of the technical status and to-do is in the commmit message. There are many regressions compared to the output , but my goal is to have no regressions (and even bugfixes) compared to the

Re: Adjusting Piano centered dynamics template and Les Néréides

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 22:32 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : The general steps are: 1) copy snippet from Documentation/snippets/ to new/ 2) remove any non-english texidoc?? items from the \header 3) edit file at will 4) run makelsr.py without arguments I'm not certain if these steps work

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:07 PM On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: I think it was a pity that the groundwork for a more generic approach was not laid down right away, so we could have easily added the aliases for all the other uses of

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Valentin Villenave wrote: Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation accordingly (don't forget NEWS), and make sure it doesn't break anything (esp. wrt regtests)? If you do all of this, I think it should be safe for you to push the change (if any problem occurs

Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:21 PM I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, and nothing I've tried has worked. I'd like to take care of that first, but I'm out of ideas. Can you remind us what you have tried so far? Re-boot (obviously yes?) Obtain

Re: Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 5. August 2009 22:07:16 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:21 PM I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, and nothing I've tried has worked. I'd like to take care of that

Re: Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Have you entered a wrong password more than three times? If the server runs denyhosts, it will then add the IP address to /etc/hosts.deny and you won't be able to connect... I don't ever recall entering a password anywhere except at savannah.gnu.org. How can I

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice context than in the Staff context. I suspect that this will give many collisions (dots on top of noteheads) when this is combined with polyphonic chords. Did you runthis through the

Re: is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: Is it possible to write a scheme procedure to test if a given context contains a particular engraver? Like... (context-has-engraver? context 'Span_arpeggio_engraver) From engraver-doc-string: (if in-which-contexts (let*

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: I didn't, but unfortunately my system can hardly do anything these days... If someone else would like to run the regtests with this change, that would be great. Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Regards, Neil

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Where's that? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: Where's that? http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=input/regression/collision-mesh.ly;h=53b02aa4cbda8e1c8834a72046b980d500a5a975;hb=HEAD ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Mark Polesky wrote: Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Where's that? Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Mark Polesky wrote: Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Where's that? Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? Oh, right. I think I'm going to stop now, since I'm clearly just being stupid. Sorry. - Mark

Re: is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: Then is there a way to access the current (not default) layout? I don't think so. Even ly:grob-layout seems to return the default layout. Or are you saying that (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) isn't possible? It works fine unless you use \with,

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 22:13 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Indeed :-P dots.ly before dots.ly after collision-mesh.ly before collision-mesh.ly after John attachment: lily-cbbf29d5.compare.jpegattachment:

Regression in docs: Output-suffix does not work as documented in AU 3.2.1

2009-08-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
I am top posting. This is an example of something that should be sent to lilypond-devel, rather than to the frogs list. There are many developers who are not on the frogs list. Therefore, I've forwarded this to the -devel list. Thanks, Carl Sorensen On 8/5/09 5:12 PM, Ian Hulin

Fixing configure with Autoconf 2.64

2009-08-05 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hello, I need this patch to run ./autogen.sh with the latest Autoconf version (2.64). The only earlier version I am able to test is 2.63, which works fine with the patch. The warnings I am seeing and workarounds are here:

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Okay, so dots.ly looks better and collision-mesh.ly looks worse. So what's the solution? This is probably ridiculous, but if there were some way to test for meshing, so that the Dot_column_engraver would stay in

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
2009/8/5 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: dots.ly before dots.ly after collision-mesh.ly before collision-mesh.ly after I think even this simple case might fail if the dots were placed in the Voice context: c''4. \\ b'4. In the example that Mark found, the non-aligned notes are