Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-15 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running lilypond-book Traceback (most recent call last):  

Re: Change syntax for woodwind-diagram markup (issue1946043)

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: On 2010/08/14 19:47:59, Neil Puttock wrote: Since these are bound with defaults above, you don't need to use chain-assoc-get (radius size) Done. I forgot about how nifty the new interface is that David made possible. Actually, the niftiness is due to

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:27 AM On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running

Re: Change syntax for woodwind-diagram markup (issue1946043)

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 2:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: On 2010/08/14 19:47:59, Neil Puttock wrote: Since these are bound with defaults above, you don't need to use chain-assoc-get (radius size) Done. I forgot about how nifty the new interface is that

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-15 Thread -Eluze
Trevor Daniels wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running lilypond-book Traceback (most recent call last): File c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py, line 86, in ? import book_base as BookBase File

Re: LSR down?

2010-08-15 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 14 August 2010 10:35, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: I've not been able to access the LSR since Friday.  Is it down? It seems, indeed. And according to downforeveryoneorjustme.com it is down for everyone. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ Cheers, Xavier

Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Hi, I'm just trying to improve the documentation of define-markup-command and define-markup-command-list. Those commands have some functionality for defining aliases to existing commands. For one thing, I have my doubts that this works properly, for another, it complicates implementation and

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Hi, I'm just trying to improve the documentation of define-markup-command and define-markup-command-list. Those commands have some functionality for defining aliases to existing commands. For one thing, I have my doubts that this

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Hi, I'm just trying to improve the documentation of define-markup-command and define-markup-command-list. Those commands have some functionality for defining aliases to existing commands. For

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: IMO, getting rid of bit-rotted code is always a good idea. Should it be wrapped in a full review process? I think so. The full

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:39 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: What is the general stance towards cleanup (of unused dormant stuff never documented for general use) like that as long as it is contained in separate commits and not intermingled with

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: IMO, getting rid of bit-rotted code is always a good idea. Should it be wrapped in a full

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 8:06 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: IMO, getting rid of bit-rotted code is

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: david we don't *have* a full review process in any meaningful sense of the term. Especially not for cleaning up things. As evidence, consider: http://codereview.appspot.com/1724041/show - big initial patch - lots of comments about

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 8:06 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Whatever. I'll jump through the hoops for now. I am not confident that I will consider doing cleanup worth the trouble in future. If you have to invest those resources, it distracts from what

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 8:15 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: david we don't *have* a full review process in any meaningful sense of the term. Especially not for cleaning up things. As evidence, consider:

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: That's a huge black mark against our development process. Not the process per se, but try doing this on Rietveld.  Those are lots of changes in small files.  For every single

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:18 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: Well, FWIW, Graham agrees with you and not with me, so you could follow Graham's advice instead of mine. There is sufficient disagreement that I consider it useful to get a more

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:18 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: Well, FWIW, Graham agrees with you and not with me, so you could follow Graham's advice instead of mine. There is sufficient

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:47 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:18 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: There is sufficient disagreement that I consider it useful to get a more qualified point of view. That would

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: IMO, getting rid of bit-rotted code is always a good idea. Should it be wrapped in a full

Re: release 2.14 timeline

2010-08-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/8/13 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Translators: at the moment, I'm cautiously predicting that 2.14.0 will be 4 to 8 weeks away. You will have at least 2 weeks (14 days) notice before 2.14.0 -- each release candidate is such a warning. Francisco, you're in charge of sending

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 6:48 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: IMO, getting rid of bit-rotted code is always a good idea.

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 9:14 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: The development work should go up to Rietveld, the cleanup should go up to Rietveld. git-cl can associate only one review per branch. So I need to fork out the cleanup from the middle of the branch. Possibly by rebasing it to the tip

Review: remove markup function aliasing mechanism (was: Half-baked unused features.)

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
The aliasing functionality is unused in the current source code, not documented at user level, and not sure to be fully working (there are no regtests to check). Documenting it complicates the documentation without an immediately visible user benefit. The patch likely does not apply to a

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: I think so. The full review process for removing old stuff is generally very short and sweet (post the patch, somebody important says OK), so I don't

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 9:14 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: The development work should go up to Rietveld, the cleanup should go up to Rietveld. git-cl can associate only one review per branch. So I need to fork out the cleanup from the middle of the

Review: start work on markup doc and code (was: Half-baked unused features.)

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
URL:http://codereview.appspot.com/1991043 -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: release 2.14 timeline

2010-08-15 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 15/08/2010 17:20, Francisco Vila disait : 2010/8/13 Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca: Translators: at the moment, I'm cautiously predicting that 2.14.0 will be 4 to 8 weeks away. You will have at least 2 weeks (14 days) notice before 2.14.0 -- each release candidate is such a

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Should it be wrapped in a full review process? I think so. The full review process for removing old stuff is generally very short and sweet (post the patch, somebody important says OK), so I don't think it hurts a bit to do it. Well, IMHO, for trivial things: Just do it! Werner

shortInstrumentName getting clipped on the left margin of PDF page.

2010-08-15 Thread Ian Hulin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Has anyone noticed this problem on the second and following pages of PDF output, I've reproduced this with 2.13.17 and with 2.13.29. I'd like to know if anyone else has noticed this. The shortInstrumentNames you should see are: Picc 1 Picc

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/15/10 9:40 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: I think so. The full review process for removing old stuff is generally very short and sweet

markup.scm: Remove unused and untested aliasing functionality from define-markup{,-list}-command (issue1995042)

2010-08-15 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
LGTM. Further info: This code has been in the file since 114c05e7b0e992de7dbdd0958d23eb8d2ab1eaae (the file name at that time was scm/new-markup.scm). I think that the alternate syntax has never been used in the main source tree; it could have been used (but it's doubtful) in an individual

markup documentation improvements. Not yet finished, but the base for a different Rietveld review. (issue1991043)

2010-08-15 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
LGTM. Thanks http://codereview.appspot.com/1991043/show ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Half-baked unused features.

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 9:40 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/15/10 7:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: I think so. The full review process for removing old

Latest Doc Patch from Graham

2010-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
In the patch Author: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca 2010-08-15 19:14:33 Committer: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca 2010-08-15 19:14:33 Parent: cfe29e5a0720f8e5ca7e220c77e9cf8ab2d08306 (Doc: CG: add warning about test-output-distance.) Branches: master, remotes/origin/master

Re: Latest Doc Patch from Graham

2010-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:00:37AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: In the patch Doc: CG: begin cleaning up Releases chapter. I read a number of changes like +...@item * write preface section for manual. Yes. It would seem to me that adding the @item lines should be accompanied by