Hello all,
This email is an attempt to clarify some outstanding issues regarding
support for microtonal notation in Lilypond. It's being written in
response to recent discussion with Graham Percival on Lilypond Issue
694: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=694
To begin with,
On 20 Sep 2010, at 00:50, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
Hence why I say that the issue of effective microtonal support still
requires action at the code level, and is not simply a matter of
better
documentation ... :-(
I made a post about this issue last week, but there were no responses.
On 09/20/2010 10:47 AM, Hans Aberg wrote:
On 20 Sep 2010, at 00:50, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
Hence why I say that the issue of effective microtonal support still
requires action at the code level, and is not simply a matter of better
documentation ... :-(
I made a post about this issue last
On 20 Sep 2010, at 12:08, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
Hence why I say that the issue of effective microtonal support still
requires action at the code level, and is not simply a matter of
better
documentation ... :-(
I made a post about this issue last week, but there were no
responses.
On 09/20/2010 12:23 PM, Hans Aberg wrote:
I saw the post but was not sure quite how to interpret it.
I expected someone to ask for details. In the past, I discussed part of
it with Graham Breed, who did some LilyPond microtonal implementation,
but perhaps he is not working on it anymore.
I
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Joseph Wakeling
joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote:
*A key assumption of this approach is that there is a one-to-one
correspondence between accidental and alteration value.* This clearly
holds for conventional Western 12-tone notation. However, it does _not_
On 20 Sep 2010, at 14:48, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
I saw the post but was not sure quite how to interpret it.
I expected someone to ask for details. In the past, I discussed
part of
it with Graham Breed, who did some LilyPond microtonal
implementation,
but perhaps he is not working on it
Friends of LilyPond,
I am suggesting a new @knownissues for the Notation Reference 2.2.1. The
corresponding bug tracker issues are 1043, 439, and 36. If issue 1043 is
solved, the second paragraph of my suggestion will become obsolete.
I wrote the text below based on observed behavior of
Friends of LilyPond,
I am suggesting a new @knownissues for the Notation Reference 2.2.1. The
corresponding bug tracker issues are 1043, 439, and 36. If issue 1043 is
solved, the second paragraph of my suggestion would be come obsolete.
I wrote the text below based on observed behavior
Hi,
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain): From now on, please keep this conversation in
the translators list.
Could you provide link to this mailing list?
I send the files in attachment. The .po file was sent already before. The
template was taken from German translation files, so I didn't handle
On 09/20/2010 03:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
Hmm. This is similar to the distinction between cis and des, correct?
Yes, exactly, it's an enharmonic equivalence.
Am I also correct in assuming that d-3/4 is not sufficient? Also, is
there a frequency difference between c+1/4 and cis-1/4 ?
Keith E OHara wrote Monday, September 20, 2010 12:38 AM
I am suggesting a new @knownissues for the Notation Reference
2.2.1. The corresponding bug tracker issues are 1043, 439, and
36. If issue 1043 is solved, the second paragraph of my
suggestion will become obsolete.
I wrote the
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Joseph Wakeling
joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote:
On 09/20/2010 03:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
2) make a scan of some published music that uses this notation. This
will immediately silence anybody who wants to argue (as I somewhat
did) that a single
2010/9/19 Pavel Fric pavelf...@seznam.cz:
Hi,
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain): From now on, please keep this conversation
in the translators list.
Could you provide link to this mailing list?
http://lists.lilynet.net/translations/
I have one question. There are lines with:
2010/9/20 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
@ref{Textový vstup}
@unnumberedsec Textový vstup
@translationof Text input
and on other place:
@ref{Textovém vstupu}
Does it matter? This problem - difference between text strings in braces
is only on some places, not all. The solution
Hi Pavel,
Francisco has already replied to you while I was writing this, so the
reply about the node name issue w.r.t. cases in Czech is just a
rewording of his last reply.
Il giorno dom, 19/09/2010 alle 15.36 +0200, Pavel Fric ha scritto:
I send the files in attachment. The .po file was sent
On 09/20/2010 05:27 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
For arrowed quarter-tones the notation is described (and recommended) in
Kurt Stone's book Music Notation in the Twentieth Century.
Excellent reference! That book is frequently quoted on this list, so
this should settle any question of is it
Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 09/20/2010 03:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
Hmm. This is similar to the distinction between cis and des, correct?
Yes, exactly, it's an enharmonic equivalence.
Am I also correct in assuming that d-3/4 is not sufficient? Also, is
On 20 Sep 2010, at 18:08, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
One scan should be fine. The first step is to convince people that
the representation needs to be extended, and Stone should be
sufficient for that. The next step is for somebody actually code it.
Sure. I'll try and follow up with Hans
Hi,
thanks for answer, so the e-mail adress, I sent the files is good for
translation issues and I will send the answers there, not directly to
developers. :-)
I think, that I am the only one in this moment, who cares about bringing
LilyPond to Czech language. I´ve already worked on
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
Indeed, d-3/4 is not sufficient [1]: in arrow quarter-tone notation you
want to be able to indicate quarter-tone raising or lowering of any of
the 12 standard tones.
One
On 20/09/10 14:41, Hans Aberg wrote:
As a related issue, have you considered how (different kinds of)
transposition would be handled in your pitch scheme?
This is much simpler: the linear combinations are vectors that you
just add. For example, if a, b, c, ... are represented by 0, M, m+M,
Am Freitag, 17. September 2010, 14:52:50 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote:
So, you think we should rather extend the parser to cater for that
feature? (Or do you know any way to insert an event in simple_music
On 20 Sep 2010, at 18:00, Wols Lists wrote:
As a related issue, have you considered how (different kinds of)
transposition would be handled in your pitch scheme?
This is much simpler: the linear combinations are vectors that you
just add. For example, if a, b, c, ... are represented by 0, M,
Graham Percival wrote:
-...@subheading Other programs can export LilyPond code
+...@subheading Other programs that can export LilyPond code
This makes it sound as though the previous programs can
export lilypond code. Only Denemo falls into that
category; all the other programs are text
Reviewers: carl.d.sorensen_gmail.com,
Message:
On 2010/09/19 08:29:23, Carl wrote:
As currently implemented, this patch fails when \partial is called in
the middle
of a measure. I'm not sure \partial *should* work when called in the
middle of
a measure, but we have plenty of history on
Am Montag, 20. September 2010, um 20:25:30 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
My only problem now is that when I add definitions like (so that one can
also force other types than the pre-defined ones):
I am not sure. The warning comes from
Graham Percival wrote:
Could you stick the next version of this patch on Reitveld? I
think there's enough interest, and enough opinions on it, that
this would be worthwhile.
I've not changed anything since last post, but here it is:
http://codereview.appspot.com/2226045/
- Mark
% Feel free to compile the whole message...
%
% Is there a way to target a specific context (eg. one of
% several Staff contexts) from within the \layout block?
% Here's one case (of many) where I think this would be
% useful:
\version 2.13.34
%% music for the individual parts:
violin = { c''1 }
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