Re: flags, beams and stem length in forced directions - output improvement

2010-12-31 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2010/12/31 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: I think I agree, but this rule does not agree with the engraving books. So if we go this way we're breaking new ground. That makes me nervous. I certainly wouldn't want to do this without get agreement from a larger number of the core

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
Hi, Are you using a two-element list, or a cons cell?  The two are not the same. I seem to remember looking in the code, and seeing scm_cadr calls, which implies that your alterations would be (1 -1), not (1 . -1). In scheme I am using a cons cell, in C++ I am using a new struct with

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Hans Aberg
On 30 Dec 2010, at 23:16, Felipe Gonçalves Assis wrote: 1. How should we represent alterations? It is clear to me that the most general representation would be as a list of integers of arbitrary length (see sections 1 and 2 of the attachment). I made a proposal for a representation, and

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
On 31 December 2010 04:43, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: If we are going to move to a list for alterations, the list should probably be rationals, rather than integers, in order to be most general.  Thus it should most likely be (1/2 -1/4), rather

Re: Can't get info and docs together. was Building info with images in 2.13.44

2010-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 01:29:45PM +0200, Dave Plater wrote: In the 2.12.3 doc build info/lilypond was a symlink to doc/lilypond/html/Documentation/user and info/lilypond-snippets was a link to doc/packages/lilypond/html/input/lsr I've read through all the building documentation references I

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
2010/12/31 Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com: On 30 Dec 2010, at 23:16, Felipe Gonçalves Assis wrote: I made a proposal for a representation, and there is Haskell code available if you are interested. Hi Hans. I would very much appreciate that code. I should remark that your emails are what

Re: flags, beams and stem length in forced directions - output improvement

2010-12-31 Thread Janek Warchoł
2010/12/31 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 12/29/10 4:32 PM, Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer B because it is the most balanced one - the 16ths don't look cramped, and the 8ths don't look 'airy' when compared to 16ths (especially the beamed variant. I think

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Hans Aberg
On 31 Dec 2010, at 10:59, Felipe Gonçalves Assis wrote: I made a proposal for a representation, and there is Haskell code available if you are interested. Hi Hans. I would very much appreciate that code. I have put it up here.

Re: Change stringTunings entries from semitones to pitches (issue3842041)

2010-12-31 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/12/29 05:18:07, Keith wrote: Agreed. My earlier 'arbitrary' was a mental slip. I was thinking the choice was sensible, but even if it were arbitrary I would be scared of change. The order for the chord entry was requested by the users. Chords are generally entered lowest note

Re: Change stringTunings entries from semitones to pitches (issue3842041)

2010-12-31 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/12/29 05:18:07, Keith wrote: ly/string-tunings-init.ly:43: (make-music 'SequentialMusic 'void #t))) We need to save the string tuning in a Scheme variable... But if it is possible to set the variable as you do now, and then return a PropertySet instead of the void event, (begin

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
Thanks for the code, Hans! There are many things I am curious about. Now that I have the sources, I will spend some time analysing them, and then contact you. While I need some time to study your considerations, what I can say now is: . If, under a given musical system, what is printed on the

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/31/10 1:31 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis felipeg.as...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Are you using a two-element list, or a cons cell?  The two are not the same. I seem to remember looking in the code, and seeing scm_cadr calls, which implies that your alterations would be (1 -1), not (1 .

Broken Link in CG to http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/linkdoc/

2010-12-31 Thread James Lowe
Hello, In CG 5.4.3 Checking Cross References there is a para that refers to http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/linkdoc/ This link however gives a 404. Thanks James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: No need to decide how many of them. Just make the argument a list, instead of a cons cell, and give the user access to change the length of the list if they want to. Huh? Access to change the length of the list? We are talking about a list, don't

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/31/10 8:46 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: No need to decide how many of them. Just make the argument a list, instead of a cons cell, and give the user access to change the length of the list if they want to. Huh? Access to change

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Hans Aberg
On 31 Dec 2010, at 16:19, Felipe Gonçalves Assis wrote: Thanks for the code, Hans! There are many things I am curious about. Now that I have the sources, I will spend some time analysing them, and then contact you. While I need some time to study your considerations, what I can say now is:

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
Ok, Carl, You vote for a list of integers, with arbitrary length. There is actually no complication in not specifying its size. Te midi engraver, for example, would just ignore entries for which no value was specified. And in transpositions, the unspecified values would just be considered zero.

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/31/10 10:28 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis felipeg.as...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, Carl, You vote for a list of integers, with arbitrary length. I'm not sure I vote, yet. I'm still in discussion mode. I *do* vote for either a number or a list, so that the current behavior can continue. I

Re: Updates to bagpipe.ly

2010-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Sven Axelsson wrote: Perhaps a starting point would be if someone could have a look at what I'm doing in https://github.com/svenax/bagpipemusic/. The relevant file is bagpipe_new.ly, and there are lots of examples on how to use it in the repo as well.

Re: default .ly file in Windows Install seems to be

2010-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:30:29AM +, James Lowe wrote: I have just downloaded and installed the windows version of 2.13.44-1 and the 'welcome to lilypond' default file seems to have completely changed. I can't reproduce on linux with wine; the initial file looks like normal to me, and the

Re: Towards a new pitch representation

2010-12-31 Thread Felipe Gonçalves Assis
Hello, I will be away for about three days, so you might have to wait for replies to any questions to me addressed. When I'm back I'll read every post in this thread, and answer the relevant questions. Happy New Gregorian Year! Felipe ___

Re: critical issues

2010-12-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, December 31, 2010 11:20 PM On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:43:36PM +, Keith OHara wrote: Trevor Daniels t.daniels at treda.co.uk writes: Graham Percival wrote Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:56 AM I want to keep the word intentionally, though -- if

CG: out-of-tree building in main compile chapter. (issue3823045)

2010-12-31 Thread percival . music . ca
Reviewers: , Message: Please review. Description: CG: out-of-tree building in main compile chapter. Please review this at http://codereview.appspot.com/3823045/ Affected files: M Documentation/included/compile.itexi Index: Documentation/included/compile.itexi diff --git

Re: default .ly file in Windows Install seems to be

2010-12-31 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:30:29AM +, James Lowe wrote: I have just downloaded and installed the windows version of 2.13.44-1 and the 'welcome to lilypond' default file seems to have completely changed. I

Re: critical issues

2010-12-31 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:31:23 -0800, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: ... the concern I had was this. Quite a lot of the documentation was written, not by inspecting the code to see what was intended, but by experimenting and writing up what was found. I certainly worked that way,

Re: Change stringTunings entries from semitones to pitches (issue3842041)

2010-12-31 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
I've responded to all the commandments and put up a new patch. Thanks for all of your input. Please review. Carl http://codereview.appspot.com/3842041/diff/6001/Documentation/notation/fretted-strings.itely File Documentation/notation/fretted-strings.itely (right):

a plea to new contributors

2010-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
We are, yet again, about 10-20 hours of work away from having 0 critical issues. This is a familiar position; we've been like this since mid-August. There's a tiny chance of releasing 2.14 in January, and only a small chance of having it in Feb. As we slowly fix Critical issues, people discover

Re: critical issues

2010-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 12:31:23AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, December 31, 2010 11:20 PM However, lilypond never intentionally tried to avoid those objects colliding -- in fact, intentionally avoiding this collision would require a fair chunk of extra code.