Re: note-collison.cc: Scale shifts by width of note at left; issue 1713 (issue 6189048)

2012-05-14 Thread janek . lilypond
LGTM I apologize that you had to wait. Thank you for your work!! http://codereview.appspot.com/6189048/diff/9003/input/regression/collision-whole.ly File input/regression/collision-whole.ly (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6189048/diff/9003/input/regression/collision-whole.ly#newcode16 i

testing new texinfo.tex

2012-05-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, can someone with a fast machine please test whether a recent texinfo.tex file works for the lilypond documentation? Simply replace tex/texinfo.tex (temporarily) with this file: http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/*checkout*/texinfo/doc/texinfo.tex?revision=1.365&root=texinfo Wer

Re: Including Texinfo language files

2012-05-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> we have > > txi-de.tex txi-en.tex txi-es.tex txi-fr.tex txi-hu.tex txi-it.tex > > in tex/, so I guess we also want txi-nl.tex. Added. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lil

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-05-14 10:00 AM, James wrote: ALso I am not sure if testing your own patches and changing them to patch-review is 'good form' +1 from a Controller! I saw (USA?) Colin had started to test patches as well Alberta, ekshully, or BST-7 (UTC -6). My machine (Acer Z5610 All-in-one: pretty,

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-05-14 07:13 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Might be a nice moment to see what I can do about that long-dormant doc work. :-) ___ Let me know if I can help, Joseph, and welcome back! Colin "the older one" Campbell -- I've learned that y

Including Texinfo language files [Re: Patchy email]

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 14/05/2012 alle 14.16 +0200, John Mandereau ha scritto: > Hi guys, > > I just ran lilypond-patchy-staging.py, I'm sorry for the false failure > notification, I have changed Texlive version on my computer since my > last LilyPond build and did not install txi-??.tex files, so texi2pd

Re: web: update GSoC subpage (issue 6190068)

2012-05-14 Thread janek . lilypond
http://codereview.appspot.com/6190068/diff/1002/Documentation/web/community.itexi File Documentation/web/community.itexi (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6190068/diff/1002/Documentation/web/community.itexi#newcode884 Documentation/web/community.itexi:884: for 2012 edition of the program; w

Re: line_count fixes (issue 6211047)

2012-05-14 Thread benko . pal
http://codereview.appspot.com/6211047/diff/1/lily/beam.cc File lily/beam.cc (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6211047/diff/1/lily/beam.cc#newcode1282 lily/beam.cc:1282: staff_span *= 0.5 / staff_space; division is silly and works only because staff_space is generally 1. http://codereview.a

Re: Doc: NR clarified \footnote command as a TextScript (issue 6137050)

2012-05-14 Thread pkx166h
New patch http://codereview.appspot.com/6137050/diff/22001/Documentation/notation/input.itely File Documentation/notation/input.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6137050/diff/22001/Documentation/notation/input.itely#newcode1044 Documentation/notation/input.itely:1044: Automatically n

Re: line_count fixes (issue 6211047)

2012-05-14 Thread graham
LGTM http://codereview.appspot.com/6211047/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: web: update GSoC subpage (issue 6190068)

2012-05-14 Thread graham
http://codereview.appspot.com/6190068/diff/1002/Documentation/web/community.itexi File Documentation/web/community.itexi (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6190068/diff/1002/Documentation/web/community.itexi#newcode884 Documentation/web/community.itexi:884: for 2012 edition of the program; w

Correctly handles bounds of spanners that are PaperColumns (issue 6206061)

2012-05-14 Thread graham
LGTM http://codereview.appspot.com/6206061/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Doc: NR clarified \footnote command as a TextScript (issue 6137050)

2012-05-14 Thread graham
LGTM http://codereview.appspot.com/6137050/diff/22001/Documentation/notation/input.itely File Documentation/notation/input.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6137050/diff/22001/Documentation/notation/input.itely#newcode1044 Documentation/notation/input.itely:1044: Automatically number

Re: Use fractions rather than Scheme pairs for \scaleDuration, timeSignatureFraction et al (issue 6200068)

2012-05-14 Thread Keith OHara
On Mon, 14 May 2012 03:32:11 -0700, wrote: http://codereview.appspot.com/6200068/diff/2001/lily/lexer.ll#newcode487 lily/lexer.ll:487: {FRACTION} { On 2012/05/13 02:43:23, Keith wrote: Stupid question, but I can't figure it out. Can we remove this pattern from the rules for individual sta

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 02:14:27PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> what changes in the LilyPond design should we make to make >> LilyPond a more efficient and easy to use tool. > > LilyPond itself will remain as a command-line "compiler".

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 14 mai 2012, at 18:28, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@apollinemike.com" writes: > >> For me, it is faster to write a lot of kludgy code, see what it >> breaks, and then write good code [1] rather than trying to write good >> code from the get-go. So cheap regtests definitely help. > > That so

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@apollinemike.com" writes: > For me, it is faster to write a lot of kludgy code, see what it > breaks, and then write good code [1] rather than trying to write good > code from the get-go. So cheap regtests definitely help. That sounds uncomfortably like: "It's ok to design stuff above one

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 14 mai 2012, at 18:00, James wrote: > Hello, > > On 14 May 2012 14:56, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: >> >> On 14 mai 2012, at 15:40, Graham Percival wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 02:25:29PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Hi Graham, Il giorno dom, 13/05/2012 alle 19.24 +0200,

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread James
Hello, On 14 May 2012 14:56, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > > On 14 mai 2012, at 15:40, Graham Percival wrote: > >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 02:25:29PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: >>> Hi Graham, >>> Il giorno dom, 13/05/2012 alle 19.24 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: Agreed.  I think the

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/14 : > Begin LilyPond compile, commit: So you are back? Welcome, John! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypon

Re: Make \footnote a post-event (issue 6203044)

2012-05-14 Thread dak
Reviewers: Keith, Graham Percival, Message: As you can see, this draft comment did not get out in time but was forgotten. Looks like changing the version to 2.15.34 is now in your ballpark. http://codereview.appspot.com/6203044/diff/1018/input/regression/collision-seconds.ly File input/regress

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 14/05/2012 alle 15.46 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:38:33PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > IIUC the "From:" field is not read from a config file but is hardcoded > > in compile_lilypond_test.py:55, can we set up to a sensible default > > value, or

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > Tomorrow I'll go see the "science and technology" museum (maybe 4 > hours?), 4 weeks is more realistic. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypon

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> "m...@apollinemike.com" writes: >> >> > One idea I've been a fan of for a long time is some type of aux file >> > system in LilyPond.  That is, if we can come up with a file format >> > that stores loads of d

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > "m...@apollinemike.com" writes: > > > One idea I've been a fan of for a long time is some type of aux file > > system in LilyPond.  That is, if we can come up with a file format > > that stores loads of data from previous runs of a score a

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 01:48:54PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 14/05/12 11:41, David Kastrup wrote: > > > > Before saying anything more, I'm sorry if my earlier email was > offensive or intemperate; it wasn't meant to be. Ditto. > I was writing out of concern for the ease of contr

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 14 mai 2012, at 15:40, Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 02:25:29PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: >> Hi Graham, >> Il giorno dom, 13/05/2012 alle 19.24 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: >>> Agreed. I think the most we'd use it for would be LSR. I don't >>> think we should give

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > One of the frustrations on that occasion a year ago was that I would > have been quite likely on my own initiative to see if I could do > anything, _if_ I hadn't been treated to the lecture. It is a reasonably safe guess that the "lecture" had been by Graham. Gr

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:38:33PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > IIUC the "From:" field is not read from a config file but is hardcoded > in compile_lilypond_test.py:55, can we set up to a sensible default > value, or should it be made configurable? Either is fine with me. A sensible default val

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 02:25:29PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Hi Graham, > Il giorno dom, 13/05/2012 alle 19.24 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > Agreed. I think the most we'd use it for would be LSR. I don't > > think we should give ssh logins to developers for testing patches; > > that

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 14/05/2012 alle 15.18 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:07:23PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > Ok, this time I got > > > > $ cat /home/lilydev/lilypond-auto-compile-results/log-2012-05-14-14.txt > > Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:52:32AM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 14/05/12 07:37, Graham Percival wrote: > >No. LilyPond is a command-line "compiler". That's something that > >would happen in an alternate program. > > I'm not disputing that, or suggesting that you go into GUI/IDE > t

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 01:51:42PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 14/05/12 11:47, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > >This is very hard because of the butterfly effect - an A-flat in an > >already-crammed line could lead to new line breaking, which means new > >vertical spacing etc.. > >

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > I don't know the ramifications of running two merges at the same time None, really. The worst is when the second merge starts from a later version of origin/staging and still finishes first. In that case, the first merge will flag an error when it tries pushing an already super

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 14:36, David Kastrup wrote: It is not like the graphical frontends are not mentioned in LilyPond's documentation. Have you checked http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/web/easier-editing#Score_002c-tab-and-MIDI-editors_003a>? Personally I'm a Frescobaldi fan. MuseScore is a

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:07:23PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Ok, this time I got > > $ cat /home/lilydev/lilypond-auto-compile-results/log-2012-05-14-14.txt > Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 > Merged staging, now at: c597a126f11943be74a98ef

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 14:15, David Kastrup wrote: They are treated by the bug squad picking up the suggestion and filing it in the issue problem. If someone suggested to you that they will refuse doing that, that someone was not giving you correct information. OK. :-) To be fair, reconsidering things,

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread James
John, On 14 May 2012 12:52, wrote: > Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 > > Merged staging, now at: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 > >        Success:                ./autogen.sh --noconfigure > >        Success:                ../configure --disab

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Ok, this time I got $ cat /home/lilydev/lilypond-auto-compile-results/log-2012-05-14-14.txt Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 Merged staging, now at: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure S

Missing Texinfo/TeX language file [was Re: Patchy email]

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 14/05/2012 alle 14.44 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > John Mandereau writes: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I just ran lilypond-patchy-staging.py, I'm sorry for the false failure > > notification, I have changed Texlive version on my computer since my > > last LilyPond build and did not

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
john.mander...@gmail.com writes: > Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 > > Merged staging, now at: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 > > Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure > > Success:../configure -

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > Hi guys, > > I just ran lilypond-patchy-staging.py, I'm sorry for the false failure > notification, I have changed Texlive version on my computer since my > last LilyPond build and did not install txi-??.tex files, so texi2pdf > choked on translated manuals. I'm disablin

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 14/05/12 11:47, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: >> This is very hard because of the butterfly effect - an A-flat in an >> already-crammed line could lead to new line breaking, which means >> new vertical spacing etc.. > > I don't assume it would be easy! But ena

Re: Server at Paris VIII

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Il giorno dom, 13/05/2012 alle 19.24 +0200, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Agreed. I think the most we'd use it for would be LSR. I don't > think we should give ssh logins to developers for testing patches; > that should be done locally otherwise it could easily lead to > major headache

Re: Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, I just ran lilypond-patchy-staging.py, I'm sorry for the false failure notification, I have changed Texlive version on my computer since my last LilyPond build and did not install txi-??.tex files, so texi2pdf choked on translated manuals. I'm disabling email sending, at least until I ge

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > It's not trivial if I have to install custom code in order to submit a > tiny doc patch! > > If I were hacking on LP itself then it would surely be a small issue > by comparison, but I wasn't, and I don't think small tweak-y > contributions should be treated this

Re: Use fractions rather than Scheme pairs for \scaleDuration, timeSignatureFraction et al (issue 6200068)

2012-05-14 Thread dak
On 2012/05/14 10:32:11, dak wrote: So the answer to this question is: no. Maybe it has to do with the starting state specific UNSIGNED rules firing with priority then. I'll try moving the FRACTION rule up, but am sceptical that this will work out better, so just let's keep the unchanged

Patchy email

2012-05-14 Thread john . mandereau
Begin LilyPond compile, commit: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 Merged staging, now at: c597a126f11943be74a98efee056ab54ae729315 Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure Success:../configure --disable-optimising Success:

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 11:47, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: This is very hard because of the butterfly effect - an A-flat in an already-crammed line could lead to new line breaking, which means new vertical spacing etc.. I don't assume it would be easy! But enabling GUI/IDE developers to build function

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 11:41, David Kastrup wrote: Before saying anything more, I'm sorry if my earlier email was offensive or intemperate; it wasn't meant to be. I was writing out of concern for the ease of contributing to LilyPond (more on that in a moment). Have you actually used Rietveld for re

Re: Use fractions rather than Scheme pairs for \scaleDuration, timeSignatureFraction et al (issue 6200068)

2012-05-14 Thread dak
http://codereview.appspot.com/6200068/diff/2001/lily/lexer.ll File lily/lexer.ll (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6200068/diff/2001/lily/lexer.ll#newcode487 lily/lexer.ll:487: {FRACTION} { On 2012/05/13 02:43:23, Keith wrote: Stupid question, but I can't figure it out. Can we remove th

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 14/05/12 09:56, David Kastrup wrote: >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/source/Documentation/notation/skipping-corrected-music> > > Yes, but that wasn't the use-case I had in mind. The sort of thing I > was thinking of was: > > (i) I have a fu

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 14 mai 2012, at 11:22, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 14/05/12 09:56, David Kastrup wrote: >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/source/Documentation/notation/skipping-corrected-music> > > Yes, but that wasn't the use-case I had in mind. The sort of thing I was > thinking of wa

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 14/05/12 09:46, David Kastrup wrote: >> We don't have a canonical developer, one whose personal >> branch/repository would be official for the project. > > GitHub and Launchpad both permit branches to be owned by groups as > well as individuals. I'm sure othe

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 09:56, David Kastrup wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/source/Documentation/notation/skipping-corrected-music> Yes, but that wasn't the use-case I had in mind. The sort of thing I was thinking of was: (i) I have a full, complete score, which I have compiled.

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 09:46, David Kastrup wrote: We don't have a canonical developer, one whose personal branch/repository would be official for the project. GitHub and Launchpad both permit branches to be owned by groups as well as individuals. I'm sure other DVCS-based code hosts do as well, but tho

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 14/05/12 07:37, Graham Percival wrote: >> No. LilyPond is a command-line "compiler". That's something that >> would happen in an alternate program. > > I'm not disputing that, or suggesting that you go into GUI/IDE > territory directly -- what I'm suggesting

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/05/12 07:37, Graham Percival wrote: No. LilyPond is a command-line "compiler". That's something that would happen in an alternate program. I'm not disputing that, or suggesting that you go into GUI/IDE territory directly -- what I'm suggesting is that consideration be given to what mig

Re: Doc build hanging (with memory leak?)

2012-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 14/05/12 07:35, Graham Percival wrote: >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:38:54AM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: >>> Here you go. :-) Let me know if it needs tweaking or might be >>> better in another section of the guide. >> >> Please see the "summary for

Re: Doc: mention empty chords; avoid using zero-duration spacers in examples (issue 6197068)

2012-05-14 Thread dak
http://codereview.appspot.com/6197068/diff/1/Documentation/notation/staff.itely File Documentation/notation/staff.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6197068/diff/1/Documentation/notation/staff.itely#newcode1361 Documentation/notation/staff.itely:1361: \new CueVoice { \set "instrumentCu

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: >> No. LilyPond is a command-line "compiler". That's something that >> would happen in an alternate program. Possibly Something like Ikebana or Schikkers List > LilyPond, as opposed to TeX, is a living project and one does not need > to think of everything in advance. Ri