Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Keith OHara" writes: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:26:57 -0700, wrote: > >> The intent of the examples is to show equivalences. Of course, only one >> of the equivalences is ever needed. At this section of the manual, more >> complex/abstract constructs that are _better_ solved using <> and/or >>

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread dak
On 2012/06/02 07:28:37, dak wrote: > music = \relative c'' { e16 d c d } > { f'4 <>\marcato \music r <>^"smorz." \mp \> \music <>\! } Incidentally, something like atLast = #(define-music-function (parser location post music) (ly:event? ly:music?) (let ((final (fold-some-mu

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread dak
http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/11001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely File Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/11001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely#newcode89 Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely:89: (f

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Hall writes: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:47:36PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 06:04:55PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 12:56:33PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: >> > > >> > > In the hope that it might help others, see attached diary of my >> >

GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
Graham, I've just created fresh binaries with GUB. Previously [1] you suggested uploading these to create an unofficial release. Still of interest? Cheers, Colin. [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-05/msg00446.html -- Colin Hall _

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Colin Hall" To: "Graham Percival" Cc: "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: GUB unofficial release still relevant? Graham, I've just created fresh binaries with GUB. Previously [1] you suggested uploading these to create an uno

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 11:03:04AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > I've done a little more work, see attached. > > Any suggestions on how to debug the netpbm script would be welcome. right. Oops, I'd forgotten about this until just now: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2184 That's

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:30:18PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > I've just created fresh binaries with GUB. Previously [1] you suggested > uploading these to create an unofficial release. > > Still of interest? As a general note, yes. Right at the moment with 2.16 hopefully in three days, I thi

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:44:53PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:30:18PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > > > I've just created fresh binaries with GUB. Previously [1] you suggested > > uploading these to create an unofficial release. > > > > Still of interest? > > As a

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:35:06PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > > Have you got the regtest comparison working? > - Original Message - From: "Colin Hall" > > To: "Graham Percival" > Cc: "Lilypond Dev" > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:30 PM > Subject: GUB unofficial release still relev

Website uploads please check

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
That GUB build just finished, including the docs, and I saw a slew of rsync invocations near the end of the build: rsync --delay-updates --progress /home/colin/gub/uploads/lilypond-2.15.39-2.linux-x86.sh gra...@lilypond.org:/var/www/lilypond/download/binaries/linux-x86 rsync --delay-updates --

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread tdanielsmusic
On 2012/06/02 09:56:57, dak wrote: What consistency? For consistency with the rest of the LilyPond documentation. Can you point to a coding standard or rationale for LilyPond regarding only using @ref? Yes. CG 5.4.2: To create links, use @ref{} if the link is within the same manual. And

Re: Website uploads please check

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 01:07:18PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > That GUB build just finished, including the docs, and I saw a slew of rsync > invocations near the end of the build: > > > Er, did that just update the main website by any chance? no, you don't have a login. But I thought that st

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Colin Hall" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Colin Hall" ; "Graham Percival" ; "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant? On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:35:06PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Have you got th

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com writes: > On 2012/06/02 09:56:57, dak wrote: > >> What consistency? > > For consistency with the rest of the LilyPond documentation. > >> Can you point to a coding standard or rationale for LilyPond >> regarding only using @ref? > > Yes. > > CG 5.4.2: To create links,

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 03:59:19PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com writes: > > > On 2012/06/02 09:56:57, dak wrote: > > > >> Can you point to a coding standard or rationale for LilyPond > >> regarding only using @ref? > > > > Yes. > > > > CG 5.4.2: To create links, use @

Re: GOP: plan for June 2012

2012-06-02 Thread Janek WarchoĊ‚
+1 for Graham The Organizational Overlord :-) ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 01:38:31PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Colin Hall" > >On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:35:06PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > >> > >>Have you got the regtest comparison working? > > > >How can I tell? > > Try opening the html files in Firefox an

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:13:12PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > http://lilypond.org/test/v2.15.39-1/compare-v2.15.38-1/index.html Good, I'd expect them to be identical. > The only difference is that the Lilypond website says: > > 1045 below threshold > > 2027 unchanged > > whereas my GUB output

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:55:20PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:44:53PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:30:18PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > > > > > I've just created fresh binaries with GUB. Previously [1] you suggested > > > uploading these

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:47:38PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 06:04:55PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > It would be really nice if we could identify+fix any links > > to Jan's version, to avoid other people getting caught by this > > trap. > > I find: > > http://l

news: RC 2.15.39 withdrawn (issue 6280044)

2012-06-02 Thread graham
LGTM, push to staging now. http://codereview.appspot.com/6280044/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Colin Hall" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Graham Percival" ; "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant? On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 01:38:31PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - Fro

Re: news: RC 2.15.39 withdrawn (issue 6280044)

2012-06-02 Thread janek . lilypond
Reviewers: Graham Percival, Message: On 2012/06/02 15:43:45, Graham Percival wrote: LGTM, push to staging now. Done. I'll push directly next time, if that's fine with you. closed Description: news: RC 2.15.39 withdrawn add news item and move some news to old news. Please review this at htt

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:50:03PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > > Hmm. I get "no previous results to compare with". Could you let me > know exactly what you've got in your gub/regtests directory, please? gperciva@gperciva-desktop:~/src/gub (master)$ pwd /home/gperciva/src/gub gperciva@gperciva-d

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:50:03PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 01:38:31PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "Colin Hall" > >>>On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:35:06PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > > Have you got the regtest comparison wor

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: > - Installing Regtests into LilyDev and Sat Afternoon Session > I believe that the perl+tar problems are fixed on my version of > gub. It would be really nice if we could identify+fix any links > to Jan's version, to avoid other people getting caught by this > tra

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:28:46PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:55:20PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:44:53PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:30:18PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > > > > > > > I've just created fr

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:14:26PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > See: > > http://www.charltonhall.eclipse.co.uk/ > > That's the space I get with my ISP account so bandwidth (cost) might > be an issue. Would be nice if someone could mirror it so somewhere > more robust/cheaper. Ok. Alternately, you

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:14:26PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: >> See: >> >> http://www.charltonhall.eclipse.co.uk/ >> >> That's the space I get with my ISP account so bandwidth (cost) might >> be an issue. Would be nice if someone could mirror it so somewhere >> more rob

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:37:48PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ok. Alternately, you could only put up a few binaries (say, > > darwin-x86, mingw, linux-x86, and linux-64). Also, advertizing it > > on lilypond-user as unofficial binaries will probably get you > > between 10 and 100 downloads i

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread Keith OHara
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:09:37 -0700, wrote: On 2012/06/02 07:28:37, dak wrote: It would seem that _trailing_ <> are not really something we should lightly suggest since it is unknown what their articulations will attach themselves to. I suggested it weightily. The notations attached to <> ar

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant? On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:14:26PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: See: http://www.charltonhall.eclipse.co.uk/ That's the space I get

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Keith OHara" writes: > On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:09:37 -0700, wrote: > >> On 2012/06/02 07:28:37, dak wrote: >> >> It would seem that _trailing_ <> are not really something we should >> lightly suggest since it is unknown what their articulations will >> attach themselves to. >> > > I suggested it

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:33:24PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > To: "Lilypond Dev" > >If anybody else wants to chime in and offer hosting, of course > >that would be quite appreciated. > > I'm personally not convinced this is worth doing.

Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant?

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:33:24PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > To: "Lilypond Dev" > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: GUB unofficial release still relevant? > > > >On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:14:26PM +0100, Colin Hall w

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:24:20PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > Alternately, you may want to take a look at improving GUB > > yourself, especially since that's how this started. :) > > +1 Do you mean these: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2

Re: GUB build diary

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:14:37PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:24:20PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > > Graham Percival writes: > > > Alternately, you may want to take a look at improving GUB > > > yourself, especially since that's how this started. :) > > > > +1

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread Keith OHara
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:42:36 -0700, David Kastrup wrote: if the next note starts with a dynamic, the "smorz." will merge into that dynamic which is not wanted for. Presumably because the hairpin is a \> and the next note is \f in this case. Often, though, we do want a \> to continue into a

Re: one week until 2.16.0

2012-06-02 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > Friendly reminder -- since there are no Type-Critical issues > either open or in the "issues to verify", 2.15.39 is aimed to > become 2.16.0 in one week. Since then, we found a couple regressions. However, when I tried version 2.15.39 on some piano m

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Keith OHara" writes: > On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:42:36 -0700, David Kastrup wrote: > >> if the next note starts with a dynamic, the "smorz." will merge into >> that dynamic which is not wanted for. > > Presumably because the hairpin is a \> and the next note is \f in this > case. Often, though, w