Re: Volta enhancements tranche 1 (issue 6398055)

2012-07-24 Thread ArnoldTheresius
Phil Holmes-2 wrote: - Original Message - From: ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Volta enhancements tranche 1 (issue 6398055) Graham Percival-3 wrote:

Re: Fwd: error while running make check (g++ 4.7.0): missing include of unistd.h

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org writes: A description of the issue. For new issues, this is usually filled in with the commit message(s) automatically. OK, I did it but failed when asking for : Could not find stored credentials /home/fred/.lilypond-project-hosting-login Please enter

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-24 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 23/07/2012 alle 20.42 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:42:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: and we'd need A and DNS records for something like builder.lilypond.org or builder.lilynet.net to make the machine reachable more easily than just

Re: Volta enhancements tranche 1 (issue 6398055)

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Now the qestion: I my original intent »@funindex \inStaffSegno« better than the »@cindex \inStaffSegno« I mentioned in my last mail? ArnoldTheresius I believe the answer is here:

GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
This summer hasn't been going as I'd hoped -- heh, who am I kidding, this whole year hasn't been going as I'd hoped. Anyway, we seem to have radically different concepts of what input stabilization might mean, or even if it's a good idea worth doing. Hopefully we can settle those questions now.

Re: Issue 1320: Scheme bar line interface (issue 6305115)

2012-07-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 23.07.2012 23:45, schrieb k-ohara5...@oco.net: Looks like LilyPond defines two line-thicknesses, one for staff-line thickness in each StaffSymbol, and one (confusingly called staffline in C) for bar-line width in paper.scm. Thanks for your explanation! Indeed, staffline is not the best

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Francisco Vila
Take this as the result of a quick reading of the summary. My comment as a non-expert is that probably a good, reliably working convert-ly is a substitute for syntax stability, because it is precisely what will make your documents compile on the long term. Your personal, misfortunate case would

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not Take this as the result of a quick reading of the summary. My comment as a

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:48:13AM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: Take this as the result of a quick reading of the summary. My comment as a non-expert is that probably a good, reliably working convert-ly is a substitute for syntax stability, I disagree. For one thing it is often very difficult

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Surely an alternative is to have an archive of stable version installations? We have that already: http://lilypond.org/old-downloads.html We could advise users who require that their work will compile into the future to ensure it

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Graham, On 24/07/12 10:09, Graham Percival wrote: Hopefully we can settle those questions now. http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_4.html ** Summary Let’s decide whether to try to stabilize the syntax or not. What type of project do we want LilyPond to be? What kinds of

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Take this as the result of a quick reading of the summary. My comment as a non-expert is that probably a good, reliably working convert-ly is a substitute for syntax stability, because it is precisely what will make your documents compile on the

push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, I don't have push ability, so would someone who does please push my patch for issue 2679 (Add function for overriding broken spanners to LilyPond) for me? Thanks so much, David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
I get the patch fails to apply - presumably because music-functions.scm has been updated twice since the patch was created? Does this mean it needs rebasing, or somesuch? -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Lilypond Dev Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I get the patch fails to apply - presumably because music-functions.scm has been updated twice since the patch was created?  Does this mean it needs rebasing, or somesuch? Likely. -- David Kastrup ___

Second set of volta changes (Issue 2673) (issue 6422061)

2012-07-24 Thread PhilEHolmes
Reviewers: Ian Hulin (gmail), dak, Graham Percival, Message: Please review Description: The second set of proposed changes to volta syntax, posted on behalf of Arnold Theresius. Checked with make and make test. Please review this at http://codereview.appspot.com/6422061/ Affected files: M

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:56 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I get the patch fails to apply - presumably because music-functions.scm has been updated twice since the patch was created? Does this mean it needs rebasing, or somesuch? Likely.

Re: GOP-PROP 2-1: LilyPond is part of GNU

2012-07-24 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 16/07/2012 alle 14.57 +0200, Federico Bruni ha scritto: info manuals are only in english? I can't see other languages in /usr/share/info both info and yelp show only the english version of the manual how can I see another language? AFAIK there is no i18n design or support in

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:56 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I get the patch fails to apply - presumably because music-functions.scm has been updated twice since the patch was

Instrument names

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
I'd like to look at fixing 766. Could someone suggest the best way to go about this, please? One option would seem to be to calculate the length of the text of the instrument names, and set the indent on the score equal to that plus a bit. Is this the best way? It seems to me that a system

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
David, So, in this case, would I do something like: git pull -r then submit a new patch set? That's probably the easiest way. You'll likely get a merge conflict with instructions. Personally, I use Emacs and M-x smerge-ediff RET on the problematic file(s) for fixing the

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: David,   So, in this case, would I do something like: git pull -r then submit a new patch set? That's probably the easiest way.  You'll likely get a merge conflict with

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
David, Is there any reason I can't manually remove the markers for the merge conflict, namely the lines: HEAD === Function for overriding broken spanners If the result is the intended result, sure. You are getting the merge conflict because the history introduced

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
OK, I succeeded in doing this and uploaded a new patch set. I'm going to redo this now as I see I failed to delete two newlines... OK, all should be well now. Patch corrected. -David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 24 juil. 2012 à 11:09, Graham Percival a écrit : ** Stability or not? Stabilizing a language is a tricky process. If you do it too early, then you’re stuck with whatever mistakes or poor design decisions. If you do it too late, then there’s a large body of documents in the

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice. If I go to Rietveld and download the raw patch set, it comes without proper email addresses and formatting. This means to push stuff from Rietveld, I have to git apply the diff, then manually update the author (assuming I remember).

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice.  If I go to Rietveld and download the raw patch set, it comes without proper email addresses and formatting.  This means to push stuff from Rietveld, I have to git apply the diff, then manually

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:26:01PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice. If I go to Rietveld and download the raw patch set, it comes without proper email addresses and formatting. This means to push stuff from Rietveld, I have to git apply the

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:26:01PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice. If I go to Rietveld and download the raw patch set, it comes without proper email

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Nicolas Sceaux nicolas.sce...@gmail.com writes: As a maintainer of 100+ Mbytes of LilyPond files, I'm very interested in this topic. IMHO, we should aim at stabilizing what is currently hardcoded in the lexer and parser (notes, file structure...). Nowadays, only David works in this area,

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:26:01PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice.  If I go to Rietveld and

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: Arggh...sorry for making a hash of this :( By the way, you aren't. You are dealing with flexible and powerful tools in action, and keeping up surprisingly well. That's the reason nobody pipes up and says I'll take it up from here and do all the

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
David, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:26:01PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd be

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
Pushed as f7085cf9b2ff111b7d30c8a59e367c771a7e3c52. Patchy is now running. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Graham Percival Cc: Phil Holmes ; David Kastrup ; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:37 PM Subject: Re: push patch

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: Arggh...sorry for making a hash of this :( By the way, you aren't. You are dealing with flexible and powerful tools in action, and keeping up surprisingly well. That's the

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
Phil, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: ** Pushed as f7085cf9b2ff111b7d30c8a59e367c771a7e3c52http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/lilypond.git/commit/?h=stagingid=f7085cf9b2ff111b7d30c8a59e367c771a7e3c52. Patchy is now running. Thank you very much for

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
BTW - apologies for top-posting and that, but my Windows email system takes your mails as HTML and does this with them. Anyway - you're now in master. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Graham Percival ; David Kastrup ;

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: I just tried to change the commit message as you said.  When I check the amended patch, however, the subject line at the top of the file is: Subject: [PATCH] Issue 2679: Function for overriding broken spanners Apparently, [PATCH] is added

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: BTW - apologies for top-posting and that, but my Windows email system takes your mails as HTML and does this with them. His mails contain HTML and plain text as alternatives, and Gnus (which I use as my mail reader) lets me choose. In general, anything

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 1320 in lilypond: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface.

2012-07-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 24.07.2012 13:53, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-new Patch-review Comment #40 on issue 1320 by d...@gnu.org: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1320#c40 Patchy the autobot

Re: Second set of volta changes (Issue 2673) (issue 6422061)

2012-07-24 Thread dak
http://codereview.appspot.com/6422061/diff/1/ly/engraver-init.ly File ly/engraver-init.ly (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6422061/diff/1/ly/engraver-init.ly#newcode621 ly/engraver-init.ly:621: :| |: ||: |. :|: :|.|: :|.: .| Trailing whitespace. http://codereview.appspot.com/6422061/

Re: Second set of volta changes (Issue 2673) (issue 6422061)

2012-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: d...@gnu.org To: philehol...@googlemail.com; ianhuli...@gmail.com; gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15 PM Subject: Re: Second set of volta changes (Issue 2673) (issue

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: BTW - apologies for top-posting and that, but my Windows email system takes your mails as HTML and does this with them. His mails contain HTML and plain text as alternatives, and

Re: Second set of volta changes (Issue 2673) (issue 6422061)

2012-07-24 Thread dak
On 2012/07/24 19:40:35, email_philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: mailto:d...@gnu.org To: philehol...@googlemail.com; ianhuli...@gmail.com; mailto:gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; mailto:re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: BTW - apologies for top-posting and that, but my Windows email system takes your mails as HTML and does this with them. His mails

Re: push patch for issue 2679

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:50:52PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: We don't commit anything other than patches. That's redundant. But Issue 2679: Function for overriding broken spanners would make it easier to find the corresponding issue in case one needs to revisit the commit at one point

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:26:14AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Fine. As for the name of the server, it's called srv-lilypond in MSH Paris Nord, but it's all right to use a different name on the internet, what do you think of tadpole.lilynet.net I think tadpole. is nicer than toadunderthe.

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:55 PM grenouille.lilynet.net. I like it. Definitely better than crapaud which has an unfortunate connotation to English-speakers. Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Issue 2653 in lilypond: Midi output does not respect tied notes

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:07:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:39:33AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: cranks out a list of 44 Invalid issues. According to the stated policy, those should be marked Verified

PATCH: Countdown to 20120726

2012-07-24 Thread Colin Campbell
For 21:00 MDT Thursday July 26 Defect: Issue 2672 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2672: Patch: Midi fixes - R 6420058 http://codereview.appspot.com/6420058/ Issue 2691 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2691: Chord names collide with beams (vertical

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: Some “computer languages” are fairly stable. A TeX or C++ program written 10 years ago will probably still compile with no modifications (notwithstanding the g++ 4.3 header and namespace changes). The same is not

Re: Issue 2401 in lilypond: NR 1.2.4 - Not working snippet

2012-07-24 Thread Frédéric Bron
I proposed a patch for issue 2401 (see tracker). Now in codereview: http://codereview.appspot.com/6447043 got this message: WARNING: could not change issue labels; please email lilypond-devel with the issue number: 2401 Frédéric ___ lilypond-devel

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS or not

2012-07-24 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival graham at percival-music.ca writes: This is a problem for projects such as mutopia – a large fraction of their .ly files don’t compile with current lilypond. That means that they can’t benefit from recent bugfixes; users wanting the sheet music in a different size (say,

Re: Syntax change proposal:

2012-07-24 Thread Keith OHara
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: One really ugly problem is interpreting things like 4.. Looks like a duration, but then we have input/regression/dynamics-broken-hairpin.ly: line-width = 4.\cm The parser chooses among (too) many different modes (start conditions) telling the lexer