Re: GSoC projects list

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.02.2017 um 08:48 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >> So essentially per now we will have only 4/5 projects left: >> >> * Improving internal chord structure >> * Adopting SMuFL >> * Adding glyph variants >> * openLilyLib testing and documentation >> >> I find this list quite disappointing, an

Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
One thing I'm missing about our projects list is actual *notation* projects. Currently (i.e. when the current wave of purges has been completed) there is no project that adds to or improves LilyPond's notation. All projects are important items, but maybe this isn't really attractive to students. I

Re: GSoC projects list

2017-02-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> . a figured bass mode similar to (jazz) chord mode to display >> figured bass as chords > > What do you mean exactly? Determining the chord name from the > figures and displaying it? This also, but mainly displaying the figured bass chord as notes (which is essentially equivalent). >> . De

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with LilyPond. A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a problem no matter how accessible/robust the library, is that there will very often be som

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread David Kastrup
Jeffery Shivers writes: > I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the > obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with > LilyPond. > > A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a > problem no matter how accessible/robust the library,

Re: Cleaning up GSoC project ideas

2017-02-06 Thread Paul
On 02/02/2017 04:10 PM, Urs Liska wrote: However, I suggest that we either remove such orphaned projects or at least compress and move them down to the bottom of the page. A concise page with actual and current projects is quite important for attracting students, I think. Sorry for the delay r

Re: Cleaning up GSoC project ideas

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.02.2017 um 15:40 schrieb Paul: > On 02/02/2017 04:10 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > >> However, I suggest that we either remove such orphaned projects or at >> least compress and move them down to the bottom of the page. A concise >> page with actual and current projects is quite important for attr

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.02.2017 um 15:10 schrieb Jeffery Shivers: > I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the > obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with > LilyPond. > > A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a > problem no matter how access

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
> Man, that sounds to me like making explosives available to as many users > as possible. I mean, I recognize that there is a need apparently to be > served, but this rather sounds like a call to expanding that need. Hm, no. There is an absurd amount of weird *needs* from composers nowadays who a

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
Sorry, I responded to David before reading your response, but I see that we kind of said the same things. > Indeed this should be discussed thoroughly before actually investing > substantial energy in implementation. But for now I'd defer this to a moment > if there should be a student interested

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
> What I would > suggest a GSoC project should produce in addition is *one* coherent set > of notation features, like (just wild guesses) "Lachenmann style string > notation" or "a comprehensive set of weirdly drawn line spanners" or > "just intonation" or whatever - I would leave that as open as p

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
OK, I think we have to take care that the discussion doesn't get out of hand now but stays closely on topic (the GSoC project). It is clear that *comprehensive* coverage of "contemporary notation" is not a goal that LilyPond should or can aim at, at least for now. What we *can* aim at is a founda

HTML 4.01 requires "type" attribute for "script" element (issue 315540043 by d...@gnu.org)

2017-02-06 Thread graham
LGTM https://codereview.appspot.com/315540043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Automatic LyricExtenders (issue 313240043 by perpeduumimmob...@gmail.com)

2017-02-06 Thread dak
On 2017/02/06 11:02:56, akobel wrote: Version 2017-02-04 by David Not "by David" but "by Kurt". David merely rebased Kurt's new version. https://codereview.appspot.com/313240043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.

Re: Automatic LyricExtenders (issue 313240043 by perpeduumimmob...@gmail.com)

2017-02-06 Thread dak
On 2017/02/06 18:38:37, dak wrote: On 2017/02/06 11:02:56, akobel wrote: > Version 2017-02-04 by David Not "by David" but "by Kurt". David merely rebased Kurt's new version. "by Knut" of course. https://codereview.appspot.com/313240043/ ___ lily

Re: Automatic LyricExtenders (issue 313240043 by perpeduumimmob...@gmail.com)

2017-02-06 Thread dak
It's not really clear to me where I am supposed to go from here with what I proposed. I lean towards going back to creating my own version of this again since this one contains so much stuff that does not ring a bell with me. https://codereview.appspot.com/313240043/diff/21/lily/extender-en

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jürgen Reuter
Hi all, personally, I think, it is as always in software development that addresses a wide audience: the challenge to find an appropriate level of abstraction. If you want to support *any* kind of notation, then just use a painting or CAD software. Obviously, you do not want to

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 06.02.2017 20:15, "Jürgen Reuter" wrote: Another thing, I guess, is making it easy for musicians without programming knowledge to smoothly embed their own articulation signs, note heads, clefs, and other font symbols into LilyPond at runtime: Just define a new articulation sign or note head sh

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 6. Februar 2017 20:34:36 MEZ schrieb Simon Albrecht : >On 06.02.2017 20:15, "Jürgen Reuter" wrote: >> Another thing, I guess, is making it easy for musicians without >> programming knowledge to smoothly embed their own articulation signs, >> note heads, clefs, and other font symbols into LilyP

Re: Automatic LyricExtenders (issue 313240043 by perpeduumimmob...@gmail.com)

2017-02-06 Thread Noeck
Hi, Am 06.02.2017 um 20:08 schrieb d...@gnu.org: > https://codereview.appspot.com/313240043/diff/21/scm/define-grob-properties.scm#newcode188 > > scm/define-grob-properties.scm:188: (collapse-length ,ly:dimension? "An > automatically generated > collapse-width maybe? Length is more like a li