PATCHES - Countdown for September 11th

2020-09-11 Thread James Lowe
Hello, Here is the current patch countdown list. The next countdown will be on September 13th. A list of all merge requests can be found here: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests?sort=label_priority Push: !387 doc: remove timestamp from HTML output - Han-Wen Nienhuys

Lilypond build

2020-09-11 Thread Phil Holmes
I can't work out whether there was consensus on the next released build. Are we going with 2.21.6 and a release announcement that this is an initial pre-release for a new stable 2.22.0? Or perhaps go for 2.21.80 as a clearer sign that it's a pre-release? -- Phil Holmes

Re: Lilypond build

2020-09-11 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Freitag, den 11.09.2020, 12:20 +0100 schrieb Phil Holmes: > I can't work out whether there was consensus on the next released build. With nobody else replying, I wouldn't call it consensus. > Are we going with 2.21.6 and a release announcement that this is an initial > pre-release for a new s

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 13:40 +0200 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: > Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 12:33 +0200 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > > Here is my proposal for how to go ahead: > > > > * we build a 2.21.6 from master, and announce it widely as a 2.22 > > pre-release version. > > Adding Phil. I di

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 13:40 +0200 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: >> Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 12:33 +0200 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: >> > Here is my proposal for how to go ahead: >> > >> > * we build a 2.21.6 from master, and announce it widely as a 2.22 >> > pre-release

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I don't see that in the current stage of upheaval of both internals and > build system and infrastructure, there is a point in freezing off some > half-baked intermediate state that hasn't seen significant exposure to > extensive testing. +1 It's too early IMHO. Let's wait at laest a month.

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread James Lowe
On 11/09/2020 15:22, David Kastrup wrote: Jonas Hahnfeld writes: Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 13:40 +0200 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 12:33 +0200 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: Here is my proposal for how to go ahead: * we build a 2.21.6 from master, and announce it widely

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Freitag, den 11.09.2020, 17:14 +0200 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > > I don't see that in the current stage of upheaval of both internals and > > build system and infrastructure, there is a point in freezing off some > > half-baked intermediate state that hasn't seen significant exposure to > > exten

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Freitag, den 11.09.2020, 16:18 +0100 schrieb James Lowe: > On 11/09/2020 15:22, David Kastrup wrote: > > Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > > > > > Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 13:40 +0200 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: > > > > Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2020, 12:33 +0200 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > > > > > Here is

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> > I don't see that in the current stage of upheaval of both >> > internals and build system and infrastructure, there is a point >> > in freezing off some half-baked intermediate state that hasn't >> > seen significant exposure to extensive testing. >> >> +1 It's too early IMHO. Let's wait

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> This is not my proposal anymore to just branch, but Han-Wen's idea >> of having a freeze of 3-4 weeks before branching. > > For me, a freeze can only start if we agree that nothing fundamental > has to be changed or added. IMHO, we are far away from such a > state. What we can start, howeve

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 7:08 PM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > >> > I don't see that in the current stage of upheaval of both > >> > internals and build system and infrastructure, there is a point > >> > in freezing off some half-baked intermediate state that hasn't > >> > seen significant exposure t

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread James Lowe
On 11/09/2020 20:13, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I consider this fundamental flaws. I disagree. These flaws might be a bother for developers, but branching stable/2.22 is about not having user-visible regressions of lilypond itself, relative to 2.20, which has nothing to do with how developers exp

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Dan Eble
On Sep 11, 2020, at 15:19, James Lowe wrote: > > On 11/09/2020 20:13, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >>> I consider this fundamental flaws. >> I disagree. These flaws might be a bother for developers, but >> branching stable/2.22 is about not having user-visible regressions of >> lilypond itself, relat

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> [...] if I delete a PDF file, say, `notation.pdf`, right now it >> gets *not* rebuilt! > > The new documentation build has much more accurate dependency > tracking, so if you want to rebuild notation.pdf, you can just say > so: > > make out=www out-www/en/notation.pdf Aah, I tried without `