Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: I've not been particularly active in the last years, and there has not really been a significant pickup in activity concerning syntax/parser. Now for better or worse, before I picked up tenure there was GLISS, the "Grand Lilypond Input Syntax Something" that

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 00:15 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : > Jean Abou Samra <[j...@abou-samra.fr](mailto:j...@abou-samra.fr)> writes: > > > > Le dimanche 19 mars 2023 à 17:51 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :  > > > > > > > > So how to better involve others?  The parser may be one of those > >

Differences in `web.html`

2023-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Comparing http://lilypond.org/web.html with a self-compiled .../out-www/offline-root/Documentation/web/web.html I see the attached difference. Is it an oversight that `scripts/build/fix-docsize.sh` is not executed while building the website on 'lilypond.org'? Werner PS: That we no

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 00:15 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : > >> The MYBACKUP and MYPARSE stuff messes with the input in order to trigger >> syntactic decisions based on expression values.  That's a bit more than >> usually expected from a Bison-generated parser. >

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
John Wheeler writes: > On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: > > When I was becoming familiar with the LilyPond manuals, it seemed to > me one manual that was missing was a concise specification of the > LilyPond language, something paralleling the R5RS for the Scheme > language.  I spend a lot

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread Abraham Lee
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 6:17 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le mercredi 15 mars 2023 à 00:57 +0100, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : > > Le mardi 14 mars 2023 à 17:44 -0600, Abraham Lee a écrit : > > At the time I started with LP, the Finale 2008 example wasn't that old > in the Essay section. Is it really

Re: Interested in GNU Lilypond Google Summer of Code Beaming Fixing Project Idea

2023-03-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
Jason, I neglected to leave a link to the Contributor's Guide: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/contributor/index.html Thanks, Carl On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 12:21 AM Jason Yip wrote: > Hello Carl, > > > My name is Jason Yip, and I am interested in learning more about GNU > Lilypo

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: So how to better involve others? Maybe a good place to start is by asking a few questions. What you would like these others to do?  What qualifications would they need? John Wheeler

Fwd: Interested in GNU Lilypond Google Summer of Code Beaming Fixing Project Idea

2023-03-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
Forwarding to list, since I apparently didn't add the list to the email as I intended to. -- Forwarded message - From: Carl Sorensen Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Interested in GNU Lilypond Google Summer of Code Beaming Fixing Project Idea To: Jason Yip Jaso

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
John Wheeler writes: > On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: >> So how to better involve others? > > Maybe a good place to start is by asking a few questions. > > What you would like these others to do? Well, we are talking about core maintenance and rearchitecting here. The main objective in m

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 5:27 PM Abraham Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 6:17 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > Le mercredi 15 mars 2023 à 00:57 +0100, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : > > > > Le mardi 14 mars 2023 à 17:44 -0600, Abraham Lee a écrit : > > > > At the time I started with LP, the Final

Re: Differences in `web.html`

2023-03-20 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development
On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 14:34 +, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Comparing > >   http://lilypond.org/web.html > > with a self-compiled > >   .../out-www/offline-root/Documentation/web/web.html > > I see the attached difference.  Is it an oversight that > `scripts/build/fix-docsize.sh` is not executed

Re: Differences in `web.html`

2023-03-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:35 PM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Comparing > > http://lilypond.org/web.html > > with a self-compiled > > .../out-www/offline-root/Documentation/web/web.html > > I see the attached difference. Is it an oversight that > `scripts/build/fix-docsize.sh` is not executed w

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread Abraham Lee
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:13 PM Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 5:27 PM Abraham Lee > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 6:17 AM Jean Abou Samra > wrote: > > > > > Le mercredi 15 mars 2023 à 00:57 +0100, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : > > > > > > Le mardi 14 mars 2023 à 17:44 -

Re: Musings on our translated documentation build

2023-03-20 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development
On Sun, 2023-03-19 at 23:56 +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > Actually I was curious to check the html output rather than the changes > in the source. > If it doesn't break working links, it's fine for me. In the parts I touched, it is almost generating identical HTML (except for the links to unnumb

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 10:26 -0600, Abraham Lee a écrit : > Thanks, Jean, for doing that. I was hoping for a more public discussion to > see if creating an issue is even warranted. The essay is a historical > document, to be sure, so updating the comparison files might not be needed at > all. I

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread Abraham Lee
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:25 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 10:26 -0600, Abraham Lee a écrit : > > Thanks, Jean, for doing that. I was hoping for a more public discussion to > see if creating an issue is even warranted. The essay is a historical > document, to be sure, so upd

Re: Is it time to update the Finale 2008 sample in Essay?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 5:27 PM Abraham Lee > wrote: > >> Thanks, Jean, for doing that. I was hoping for a more public discussion to >> see if creating an issue is even warranted. The essay is a historical >> document, to be sure, so updating the comparison files migh

PATCHES - Countdown to March 22

2023-03-20 Thread Colin Campbell
Here is the current countdown report. The next countdown will begin on March 22nd. A list of all merge requests can be found here: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests?sort=label_priority Push: No patches in Push at this time. Countdown: !1877 Spelling issues - W

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/20/23 15:35, David Kastrup wrote: Well, we are talking about core maintenance and rearchitecting here. The main objective in my book is making more people able to solve their own problems with confidence without ever having to touch the core. That involves making sure that "the way things

Re: Differences in `web.html`

2023-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Jonas wrote: >> I see the attached difference.  Is it an oversight that >> `scripts/build/fix-docsize.sh` is not executed while building the >> website on 'lilypond.org'? > > Yes, intentionally so: "make website" does not execute it because it > doesn't have access to the linked manuals and cann