Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/20/23 15:35, David Kastrup wrote: Well, we are talking about core maintenance and rearchitecting here. The main objective in my book is making more people able to solve their own problems with confidence without ever having to touch the core. That involves making sure that "the way things

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
John Wheeler writes: > On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: >> So how to better involve others? > > Maybe a good place to start is by asking a few questions. > > What you would like these others to do? Well, we are talking about core maintenance and rearchitecting here. The main objective in m

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: So how to better involve others? Maybe a good place to start is by asking a few questions. What you would like these others to do?  What qualifications would they need? John Wheeler

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
John Wheeler writes: > On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: > > When I was becoming familiar with the LilyPond manuals, it seemed to > me one manual that was missing was a concise specification of the > LilyPond language, something paralleling the R5RS for the Scheme > language.  I spend a lot

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 00:15 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : > >> The MYBACKUP and MYPARSE stuff messes with the input in order to trigger >> syntactic decisions based on expression values.  That's a bit more than >> usually expected from a Bison-generated parser. >

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 00:15 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : > Jean Abou Samra <[j...@abou-samra.fr](mailto:j...@abou-samra.fr)> writes: > > > > Le dimanche 19 mars 2023 à 17:51 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :  > > > > > > > > So how to better involve others?  The parser may be one of those > >

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-20 Thread John Wheeler
On 3/19/23 11:51, David Kastrup wrote: I've not been particularly active in the last years, and there has not really been a significant pickup in activity concerning syntax/parser. Now for better or worse, before I picked up tenure there was GLISS, the "Grand Lilypond Input Syntax Something" that

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-19 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le dimanche 19 mars 2023 à 17:51 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : >> >> So how to better involve others?  The parser may be one of those >> areas with an awful amount of shoestring and glue, namely fiddling >> around until things happen to work.  All that fiddling happen

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-19 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le dimanche 19 mars 2023 à 17:51 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit : > > I've not been particularly active in the last years, and there has not > really been a significant pickup in activity concerning syntax/parser. > Now for better or worse, before I picked up tenure there was GLISS, the > "

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Zelinsky writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> But while my desire for work on user-pointing and internal design and >> architecture at that time sort of unfolded mostly in a vacuum, the years >> since then have not seen a lot of uptake. > [...] >> There also is a lot of potential for makin

Re: Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-19 Thread David Zelinsky
David Kastrup writes: > But while my desire for work on user-pointing and internal design and > architecture at that time sort of unfolded mostly in a vacuum, the years > since then have not seen a lot of uptake. [...] > There also is a lot of potential for making ping-pong progress. I > realize

Anybody else with an interest in parser wrangling?

2023-03-19 Thread David Kastrup
I've not been particularly active in the last years, and there has not really been a significant pickup in activity concerning syntax/parser. Now for better or worse, before I picked up tenure there was GLISS, the "Grand Lilypond Input Syntax Something" that sort of tried a top-down prescription